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Wyrdness said:
Nem said:

She has a boyfriend and said yes to a road trip with another guy. The two of them it seems. Got drunk with him and was having fun.

I can see how that can be a mixed message. I would just like to hear his side of the story. Even if this was it. He got in the shower with her, wich was clearly a mistake and left once told. I don't see the harassment.

This is not like the Heirnstein guy or whatever he was called where he didn't care about what the woman said and was doing it anyways without giving them a choice. That is harassment.

I go on trips with friends often as well in fact this week a group of us is staying down at Victoria Dock for the London Comic Con doesn't mean we're going there to have sex behind our partner's backs it's just a fun occasion, people also have drinks with each other all the time as well still doesn't mean you can make a move on them. Sorry I don't fully buy the mixed message defence unless he was given a full invite to join her in the shower, if not then he shouldn't be barging in naked to jump in with her especially in this day and age.

 

This isn't even siding with her or not it's just highlighting that if true he's either a dumbass for doing it with out a full invite or always had the intention of getting more out of her.

 

Hiku said:

If you feel you're getting mixed signals from someone, you use your words to try to clarify.
What you don't do is barge into their room and hop into their shower butt naked. Don't defend that kind of behaviour. That sounds like some Weinstein shit.

And if he used his authority to try to censor discussion about his behaviour, then that at the very least makes him look more guilty.

Either way, I didn't know much about how the mods behaved over there. But from what Aqua said in regards to how they handled Aqua's account and NPD George, they don't sound like the most reasonable people on earth.

I'm confused. You guys obviously know something i don't about relationships.

Did they go like: Oh i like you. I like you too. Can i kiss you? Yeah, sure. 

Did that ever happen? There is just a moment. Sometimes you choose the right moment, sometimes you don't. It doesn't always work, but it comes from an impulse and you either hug/kiss or whatever. But you can't convince me that is not how it works, because it is incredibly awkward otherwise.

He made his move. He wasn't just beeing a creep because if he was he would have stayed in the shower. He left and was resentful, by her own words. You know, when you get rejected, you do get resentful (and btw it's entirely likely he was drunk aswell). He obviously thought that there was something there and made his impulsive move. Now, what gave him the feeling that that was the mood, i dunno. But, it is clear to me this wasn't just a "friends" road trip. This was 2 people going on a road trip on the back of her boyfriend from what we gather. She was an accomplice in this. Besides, there was no actual harassment in that situation.

So, i dunno. This situation doesn't look clear at all to me.

As to why he said to ban people that talk about his personal life, i'm sure we can all understand. No one wants their private life in the public square, and it's obvious to me that agendas met the perfect storm.

I think it's wrong to judge this guy in the story presented as far as sexual harassment goes. It is more than obvious that there is more to this story. The verbal abuse, if true, 100% agree, it's despicable because that is intentional. 

The shower scene? Sounds like a misunderstanding to me. 

Alse the guy wasn't holding her job to ransom or anything. Let's keep things in perspective here.