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AngryLittleAlchemist on 18 October 2017
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Nuvendil said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I think in the process of EA killing of a lot of developers people are getting a little blind-sided here.

Even though from what I know EA's justification for cancelling their other studios was more or less bullshit, if EA closed Bioware it honestly would be deserved.

Bioware has many, many, many problems and at least half of them are about the studio and not the company that publishes their games. People have tried to brand every issue with any EA studio as a fault of EA, yet other developers like Respawn Entertainment are getting a huge amount of support and more post-launch marketing than most developers would get. EA might not be making better games but in some ways they're improving and if Bioware closed after Anthem failed? Sorry, that's on Bioware. Maybe their legacy would have been better under another publisher, but they're simply too inconsistent a company(and yes, I know they have different studios).

Respawn Entertainment is an independent company, EA merely publishes for them.  They are not under the control of EA.  

Care to list the issues with the main BioWare dev?  Cause the BioWare most people know and think of last released Dragon Age Inquisition, which did very well critically and commercially.  And is of course, working on Anthem.  Mass Effect Andromeda is the result of EA just not being willing to leave well enough alone and wanting to milk a franchise that was pretty concisely wrapped up but also wanting BioWare propper to make a new franchise.  

As for Anthem, we'll see what it's like.  But if it is a lootbox riddled, milktoast, blatantly-focus tested Destiny-esque pseudo open shooter with a lame story and forced multiplayer...well I HIGHLY doubt that would be BioWare's idea given their past several releases.  As a subsidiary of EA, they take their marching orders from them.  

Well then more companies should just go for publishing rights and not creative control(although that's hindsight)

I don't think Inquisition is a good case for Bioware staying around. It's essentially the go to "But but Bioware still make good games!" because it's literally the only semi-positive thing to come out in years. It got Game of The Year award but it came out in a year of mediocrity for the most part. I don't hardly ever hear anyone talk about it like Dark Souls or Skyrim or The Witcher 3 or many many other RPGS. I've heard "Elex" on this forum more than Dragon Age(ok jokes aside). 

Reality looks more like this: Mass Effect 3 terrible ending debacle(it's not a good game in general though), Dragon Age 2 is hated by a majority of the fanbase, Inquisition comes out and is forgotten quickly by gamers(I'm sure you or some Bioware fans will beg to differ), and Andromeda fails .. based on what we know ... mostly because of Bioware.

And even if EA FORCED BIOWARE against their will to make Anthem(which I won't judge yet), it's not an excuse for a mediocre game. So, when Anthem eventually comes out and gets a 90/100 from reviewers on Metacritic but a 6.5/10 from gamers that's something to keep in mind. 

You have to understand that for new generation gamers we did not grow up in an era where Bioware is this massive force, where Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire and Sonic Chronicles(hehe) and Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins are all in recent memory. What Bioware is now is a cynical, hollow shell.

That being said, i'm open to the idea that i'm just an idiot and wrong.