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starcraft said:
At the end of the day, Tombi's key assumptions seem to be thus:

-Due to its massive sales, the Wii will get a tonne of quality JRPG's
-Due to FFXIII, the PS3 will get a tonne of quality JRPG's.

Here is the problem with one: At the very least, the bulk of those JRPG's are 18 months away, and thats if third party devs decide they can sell them on the casual wii base.

Here is the problem with number two: This isn't the PS2. Devs are TERRIFIED of the PS3. Its not selling hardware fast and when SRPG's come out, they bomb. If Final Fantasy XIII spurs JRPG production for the PS3, those JRPG's are up too three years away. FFXIII won't be out for a year minimum in the West (hell probably not in Japan either). Then, IF FFXIII pushes consoles to JRPG fans devs might start to make quality JRPG's for the PS3 and they will be at least two years beyond THAT.


Look at it this way Tombi. You can pay $350 for a Pro now and play 10 great JRPG's in the next year. If you spend $400 on a PS3 right now, you can play WKS and MAYBE FFXIII in the next year.

But if you buy the Pro and play all those other games, IF those JRPG's ever come to the PS3 (and lets face it, they won't be exclusive anyway, Microsoft's console sells enough JRPG's to warrant a quick port, even without moneyhatting) it will be when the PS3 is dirt cheap and you can pick it up on the fly.

 If you can use flawed logic, so can he:

  This all was flawed logic, but you were right (well, Dodoce was, but you used the logic as well) on pretty much all accounts except the PS3 having no ability to move JRPGs and the watching it on the Zune thing. You made a lot of assumptions in these claims. Tombi is doing the same thing. So Pot, meet kettle.

 
 I don't claim credit for this idea, Dodoce posted it a while back but I couldn't find the thread:

-If this game was on the PS3, Sony would want us to know about it already. This holds for both PS3 exclusive and PS3/360 multiplatform. Sony is still largely trading on potential as far as games go, ESPECIALLY in Japan where sales are dismal.

If MS would wait on announcing it, why would Sony? Flawed logic.

-IF the game was on the 360, there would be more reason for Microsoft to hold off on an announcement. As we have seen with Lost Odyssey and to a lesser extent Eternal Sonata, Japanese gamers are immediately discounting amazing Japanese-orientated games when they are announced 360 exclusive. However if you hype Star Ocean 4 non-stop, building up the perception in hardcore Japanese gamer's minds that it is a must have and THEN announce it for the 360, they will be more inclined to pick up the console for the game, rather than switching off.

You were right on this, but it was still flawed logic because I've seen virtually NO hype for Star Ocean 4. MS still waited to announce, so I'll give you this one.

-It must also be noted that the PS3 has shown NO ability to shift JRPG's in the West, whereas the 360 has shown some (limited) ability to do so. Much of this ridiculous idea that the PS3 can sell JRPG's right now comes from the PS2's legacy.

This is flawed logic because the PS3 didn't have any good JRPGs (or probably any at all) at that time. You can't assume on it's ability to sell JRPGs if we haven't seen it. 

 

-Something about "So what if we can watch it on the PSP? I can watch it on my Zune too.

Do I have to say it? Flawed logic, you assumed just because you could watch it on the Zune SE/Tri-Ace had intention for you watching it on the Zune.



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