| RolStoppable said: Yes, I would still have a problem with a plain burqa ban, because it punishes muslim women instead of their men who are the actual source of the problem. By ultra-conservatives I refer to those who force their women to wear a burqa; I single out this group because those muslims only account for a small percentage of all muslims in the country. Stoning people for their homosexuality is an entirely different topic and as long as there are no reports of muslims acting violently against homosexuals in Austria, there's no real problem. Sure, there are people who think that homosexuality should be punished, but thoughts aren't a crime. You'd easily find Austrians who hold crazy beliefs, but as long as they don't harm others and don't call publicly for the harm of others, it's not something that requires measures to counteract the beliefs. That's why I find the fear of islamification way overblown, because if I was scared of nutcases, I would have more reason to be afraid of Austrian citizens than immigrants. A number like 25% (going with your estimate for the sake of argument) of muslims thinking that homosexuality should be illegal isn't really scary when over 20% of Austrian's voters actively support a political party like the FPÖ. EDIT: Early estimates after the end of the election put ÖVP at 31%, SPÖ 27%, FPÖ 25%, Neos 5%, Grüne 3.9%. So Grüne could be missing out because the threshold to get in is 4%. |
How exactly is a burqa ban a punishment of women? I really don't see the big deal! I don't buy that they would just never come out, because that's not how society works, you have to come out sometimes, and then their men would have to learn to live with it.
There needs to be violence against homosexuals for you to see a problem??? What about the muslim homosexuals who have to hide their sexuality of fear of being expelled, or worse, attacked by their community?!
The parallel societies in every european country is so bad that even some of those who want to become part of the society don't dare to, out of fear of the reaction of their muslim family and community.
We need to remove the whole foundation for a parallel society, and that is done by enforcing laws, but you would apparently rather sit back and twiddle your thumbs and hope that the problems magicly disappear, while you simultaneusly yell 'racist' after those who try to find a solution. Or maybe you just don't care about any of this shit?
And yes, it is a shame that a party like FPÖ (which I am really not a fan of) has become so popular, but I guess that is what happens when the established parties have ignored all those problems for decades and are only now slowly beginning to look for solutions.
