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Vinther1991 on 14 October 2017
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RolStoppable said:
Vinther1991 said:

You just said the motivation for the ban was racist, not why you viewed it as such. A burqa is not a race.

I never put burqas and pedophilia on the same level. I used an example to illustrate that just because a problem affect few, it can still be a problem that should be dealt with. But anyway, both pedophilia and oppression of women are terribly bad things, that should be dealt with.

Even the articles about the burqa ban point out that the law was passed to appease xenophobes, so I am not doing some wild guessing here. Yes, a burqa is not a race, but nobody in this thread claimed that a burqa is a race.

If you use an example, it should make sense. If you use something as serious and deplorable as pedophilia to make the point that burqas need to be dealt with, then it comes with the implication that both are on a similar enough level to justify such a comparison as an example.

Where you are very mistaken is your perception of burqas. For one, there are women who want to wear one, so not every case is one of oppression of women. And two, banning the burqa is not doing a service to oppressed women. It's a law that completely misses the mark. Here's why:

Who oppresses women? It would be men. It is men who tell their wives and daughters to wear a burqa in public. If you now prohibit burqas in public, you aren't giving freedom to these women. What happens instead is that the men won't allow their wives and daughters to leave the house anymore, so in reality a burqa ban amplifies the oppression of women because it fails to address the root cause. Anyone who supports a burqa ban is ignorant or naive at best.

So the articles agree with you, but does the People’s in the parlement who voted for it. Is it impossible in your mind that a non-xenophobe/racist could want a burqa ban.

Is it because you didn’t get my point, that a problem can be serious even if it only affects few, that you attack the comparison? No pedophilia and burqas are not on the same level, that wasn’t my point, I’m sorry if you understood it that way. So since we agree they are not on the same level, can you adress my point instead?

Just because some women want to wear it, doesn’t mean that they should be allowed to. They basicly remove themselves from the job market that way. And they are basicly advertising for the female oppressive ideas in Islam. Voluntarily wearing something women in other countries fight with their lives to get rid of.

Your last point I addressed in my responce to forest-spirit.