AngryLittleAlchemist said:
And you have stats to back this up? Or are you just making assumptions? Because here's the thing ... you're on a forum that, to begin with, is incredibly niche. I honestly would not doubt if everyone in the emulation thread was getting their games 100% legally, because the forum is niche, emulation is even nicher, and the thread is more niche than both... You're essentially banning talk about two games because you have a bias towards them. Not because of logic or reasoning. |
You really gotta stop with the ad-hominem attacks based in psychology. I'm still not convinced you know what logic and reasoning are anyway. You throw those words around, but I doubt you've ever picked up a logic textbook. Oh and here's the stats to back it up by the way. I was just about to post them.
This is an exerpt from a post on another "emulation" thread.
The majority of respondents to the poll were from developed countries such as U.S, U.K., Germany, Australia, etc. You can see this here.
It's hard to tell from the pie chart, but if you add up all the developed countries together I'm pretty sure we'd wind up with over 75% of the respondents being from developed countries. Your (Zero's) theory that most of the pirates are from developing or underprivilidged countries doesn't reflect the data.
If respondents from your (Zero's) listed countries were weighting the average we would see a much lower rate of piracy than 35% in developed countries. But as we can see below we don't see that. The U.S., U.K., and Canada still sit around the 30% mark for piracy. Countries such as France, Spain, and Italy sit at 40% to 50% piracy rates. Also, do you see those little numbers at the top of the bars? Those are the number of respondents per country. With a little math it's not hard to get a fairly accurate number of the percentage of respondents per country. Expect an edit of this thread in the next day or so showing the results of that math.
Edit: I did the math. 39,506 or 79% of the respondents were from the developed world. 6,795 or 13.5% were from developing countries. That leaves a little under 7% of the respondents being from countries with fewer than 250 responders. 2134 or 4% were from the countries you (Zero) listed with high piracy rates. So, again your (Zero's) theory that countries with high piracy rates are skewing the results, doesn't reflect the data shown.
This was information was taken from a PCgamer article, where 50,000 pcgamers from around the world were polled on why they pirate, and whether or not they pay for their games. Around 43% of the respondents stated that they never or rarely pay for their pirated games. Keep in mind this is on PC where somebody can pirate a game, wait for a steam sale, and buy the game at a massively discounted rate, all while technically being able to check the "I paid for my pirated game" box. But there's no steam sale of either BotW or Persona 5, so they can't do that sort of thing. This drives piracy rates for these games up significantly. Also, keep in mind that if you pirate a $60 game on release day, and then pay $10-$15 years later, you are still a theif, because you didn't pay what was asked of you at the time. So here we have a poll which asks incredibly softball questions, giving people every out imaginable, and we still get around 43% of pirates admitting to not paying for their games.
So my argument is as follows.
1. The majority of people who pirate, (or torrent game files) on PC don't pay for their games, or if they do they don't pay the initial asking price, opting to wait for a massively discounted steam sale.
2. There are no steam sales for Persona 5 or BotW, so the second part of the or statement from premise 1 does not apply for those games.
3. Therefore the majority of people who torrent Persona 5 on PC for the purposes of emulation do not pay for their copy.
I'd put the other argument out there, but I think it's pretty obvious. I shouldn't have to put everything into propositional logic but oh well.
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