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NATO on 10 October 2017
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LudicrousSpeed said:
NATO said:

For crash physics, neither game should bother with it, the only time crash physics is needed in a driving game is for rally titles or Baja, 90+% of impacts on an actual track result in pace cars being sent out while they clean up the mess and clear the circuit, and the car(s) that had the impact being removed from the race entirely, so to argue over which crash physics are realistic when neither is anywhere near realistic, is laughable.

If you hit a tire wall at 100kph in either game, you can keep on racing, that isn't realistic, if you get side swiped in a corner, at worst, theres minor wing deformation, broken glass and some scratch textures, in reality that's a cracked or completely snapped control arm, suspension component, obsctruction of wheel by bent wing, destroyed rim, etc.

Idk, seems right at home in a thread about bare bones pit stop sequences.

Also, there can exist middle ground between one end of the spectrum and another. PD doesn't have to make super realistic crash physics in order to get rid of the bumper car physics.

Well no, because the threads about a trailer clearly showing a fully featured pit sequence then having nothing of the sort, for it to be right at home either game would need to have shown dramatic crash sequences while showing an "in game footage" overlay, then ship with no crash simulation at all.

Crash simulation is a bumper cars joke in both games.

GTS: https://youtu.be/GVr-Qsrj-VQ?t=55
FM7: https://youtu.be/5PgqM28wdTQ?t=538

Then destruction derby 1 on the PS1 - https://youtu.be/cc9Td6Gm8is?t=42

For a long time Forza was way ahead in terms of crash physics, but both Forza and GT seem to have plateau'd at an awkward, inaccurate model that is both unrealistic and lacking in any real purpose.

I say that as someone that races competitively in the real world once a month, at Tsukuba, Fuji speedway and Suzuka. I still hope that some day they'll focus more effort into that area of the simulation but they never seem to, it's all resolution this, car count that, lighting this, photo mode that.

Meh.