We need to stop NRA (nonsensical rifle addiction)

[DonFerrari]

Ka-pi96 said:

DonFerrari said:

And how is that not hard??? Have illegal guns become 0 in other countries besides Japan? Drugs as well?

I didn't say it's impossible, I said it's very hard. There's a difference. And it is indeed very hard to get a hold of a gun in many countries.

Very hard for the common citizen you mean right? Or does the criminals over there rob unarmed?

Mnementh said:

DonFerrari said:

And how is that not hard??? Have illegal guns become 0 in other countries besides Japan? Drugs as well?

It is pretty hard to get an illegal gun here in germany. Not zero, but then this is ever the case. But I see that in Brazil you might have a different experience. But look at the result:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Germany has a homicide-rate of 0.85 (per 100.000 people and year), while Brazil has one of 26.74. It is 30 times a slikely to get murdered in brazil than it is in Germany. You're right about Japan, it is even three times lower than in Germany, they have a rate of 0.31. To make it clearer: In Japan you had 395 that year of count, on 130 million people. In Germany it were 682 murders on 80 million people. In Brazil that are more than 55.000 murders on 210 million people. Alone this dimension is crazy. So yes, restriction of gun ownership has effects. Sure, murder rate is dependent on a lot of factors more, but gun ownership is a contributing factor.

The difference in Brazil comes from the size of the country, the vast border, imense coast... it is just impossible to totally control guns in Brazil.

Care to compare the amount of legal gun on the population per homicide rate on USA, Germany and Brazil?

The difference in murders is not even close related to how strict is the legislation on legal weapon.

Mnementh said:

vivster said:

Safety is number one priority.

Ouch. This reminds me: even the number of gun accidents in the US is higher than murders in many european countries.

Sure, when you have 300M population against 30M most raw numbers will be higher.