What is a political issue that you want to understand the opposite viewpoint more?

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JWeinCom said:

HomokHarcos said:

Is there any chance of a leg developing a consciousness for the future? No. That's the difference between a leg and a fetus

That's a different argument.  So lets go with a different example.  My sperm can potentially develop consciousness.  Each and every one of them.  Do they deserve the same protection as a fetus?

coolbeans said:

How does that meet his criteria?

How does it not?  The criteria was alive, moving, growing, with human DNA.  A functional leg can move, grows, has human DNA, and is definitely alive.

In the end it really comes down to morals, which are inherently irrational. A more rational approach would allow even postnatal abortions. A human baby is nothing but a lump of flesh with no ability to sustain itself and no sense of self. Which makes it less of a living being than a common rat.

That's why I couldn't care less when a baby dies. A baby can just be redone in 9 months with a bit of effort. The bigger tragedy is when someone aged 20-40 dies. Those people actually had lives, they wanted to keep their lives and they contributed to society. A baby is worth nothing.

That's why I find it kinda amusing when people argue over fetuses and month old clumps of cells when even a full grown and born baby is nothing but useless flesh.