Amazon U.S. October bestsellers and general Amazon-based discussion

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GribbleGrunger said:

Nuvendil said:

Nah.  Sony has made it a point to move according to the market, not forcing the market to conform to their decisions.  Until the tables are turned and sales are 75-80% pro and 20-25% standard rather than vise versa, the standard will remain...well the standard.

 

Ariakon said:

I don't think so, it just means that the slim ps4 is cheaper to produce than the Pro in the first place and isn't in need of a revision to cut costs (which it already did last year over the og ps4 and its other revision). 

 

Interesting about that $50 destiny pro bundle price cut, it seems to only be an Amazon thing at the moment. Best Buy still has it listed at $449. EDIT: still $449 at Target as well. 

The push back to this idea (and I use that term in a none aggressive way) seems odd to me. We've seen news of updates to everthing PS related other then the standard PS4. That's a fact but in no way proof of what I'm saying. ... I concede that. At the moment, Sony are having to run TWO production lines for the PS4, the Pro and the PS4. I can't see that both can be easily intergrated so to me it appears as if they need TWO completely different production lines to cater to both. By cutting out the PS4 they can then focus ALL their production on the Pro, and with the Scorpio releasing it seems obvious they'll want to counteract it with their own 4K narrative. 

Given that the Pro can counteract that narrative at a much cheaper price, it also makes sense to lower the price of the Pro in line with the 'successful' price of the standard PS4 while similtaniously allowing for a single and less complicated production model. There will be many people who are not at all interested in the 4K narrative, in fact likely ignorant of it, BUT 'more powerful' is something that would resonate with them, even if specifics are alien to them. Therefore, dropping the PS4 and moving over to the Pro will only invigorate the market providing that price is NOT more but equal to or less. 

One production line for Sony (stream-lining) + perceived increased power (for your average consumer) + 4K messaging (to counter Scorpio) + an excepted and successful price range = sustaining a decent sales projection. At least to me. If you disagree then that's fine, but I think it's worth keeping in mind.

Having two production lines means nothing to Sony. They were just fine with producing the PS2 alongside the PS3 for 7 years. The Pro isn't the main seller, the PS4 is. You don't cut the market leading model in favor of forcing the enthusist model to everyone.

The Pro's 4K narrative was/is already met with skeptism thanks to the One X already being a better product and that marketing starting before the Pro even launched. The Pro doesn't become a much purchase product for 4K just because you discontinue the 1080p model.

Are you suggesting that a console that's already $100 cheaper than the competition should drop a further $100 one year after launch? Pro won't even hit $299 until 2019 at the earliest. $349 in 2018, $299 2019 going off how Sony priced the PS4 this gen.

That is not a smart move for Sony at all and would lose them massive amounts of money on hardware that has no reason to be lost. The PS4 is already more powerful than the Xbox One and the Pro is cheaper than the One X.  That is where Sony wants to be right now, not cutting the more succesful product to counteract a console that has no widespread market penetration.