By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
sc94597 said:
Nymeria said:

My question to anyone who thinks I'm wrong is to explain to me why you're okay with our current system? What is it about Canada or Germany that worries you so much? Do you dislike Medicare? If your taxes were raised exactly what you spend on health insurance is that a fair trade? If not is there a number less than that would be for you? I'm sure there can other objections and feel free to state them. I'll try to not get too emotional, but it is personal to me.

I am not okay with the current system. It gives subsidies to for-profit insurance companies, and should end. Having said that, I don't think creating a state monopsony as they've done in Canada is preferable. The German multi-payer system is preferable, but it is also classist in that a the bottom 80% must pay into state insurance funds, and the top 20% get choices. 

I think the best system, and the one most compatible with the United States is the Swiss system, but I'd modify it a bit to suit American sentiments. In the Swiss system people choose among not-for-profit insurance organizations for basic stuff, and then these same organizations provide extra services for higher costs. 

Why do I prefer this system? It does not provide subsidies for for-profit institutions, while retaining choice. Since everybody has different medical needs, and especially in heterogenous populations, it makes sense to have multiple servicers who can best address different needs. 

So far though, Democrats haven't pushed for a Swiss-esque system, and I am not a fan of state monopsony's so, I am not going to support a system that puts most decision-making on health-care into the hands of the state. Especially a state which evangelicals sometimes control and can use to deprive women and LGBT persons of services that specifically help them. 


Sounds like you don't disagree, but differ on the solution. My question is if a compromise between Switzerland and the United States system offered was the Canada system would you take it?  Are the draw backs of Canada you see if applied to the US greater than the current US system's issues?