HomokHarcos said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
So where should it stop?
That's one of the worst arguments trends that i've heard a lot recently. It's the same argument that conservatives use to stigmatize gay marriage, it's the same argument that people use for gun control laws, etc etc.
"Where should it stop" is just a version of the "you give them an inch they take a mile" mentality, which while useful in many debates, the former just feels like a stigmatization of such argument. It's always important to ask the question "If I support this nuanced position, will the people supporting such position take it to an extremity?" I get that. But at some point it becomes questionable whether such doubts are taken to the point of lunacy.
To be clear i'm not employing guilt by association, i.e. saying that because other people have used it for ridiculous arguments it makes your argument ridiculous. I'm also not lumping in all conservatives together. But, I do think it's important to take into account how many times that mentality has been used recently to justify slippery slopes and arguments not based on solid foundation.
No, nobody is going to support post-birth abortion just because they believe in opportunities for pre-birth abortion. There are too many variables that make the two scenarios different, and honestly Ka-pi, I know you're intelligent enough to get the huge difference between the two scenarios. So I honestly don't know why you're lumping them together.
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An infant is entirely dependent also, so what is the difference if she decides to kill the born child?
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At the point of birth, pretty much every possible issue with birth is already addressed, and alternatives are available to side step any issues with parenting.
The question of abortion for the sake of the mother's health? Already solved by the time of birth. Either the mother died, the mother is alive an had issues with birth, or the mother is fine.
The debate over whether there's a soul? Well, when a baby is born the perception of said human is already there. We can see it observe it's surroundings and truly live in an environment. If there is any question of whether or not a soul is inhabited in a fetus, that question is practically answered by the time of birth, making ethical arguments thrown out the window almost entirely by the time of birth.
The baby is no longer physically attached to the mother so an adoption agency can be found , although honestly I don't know much about the mother's milk scenario.
That's already pretty much the biggest three reasons why abortion is controversial, solved, just by the birth itself.
