the-pi-guy said:
Aura7541 said:
Yes, and here's a one and a half audio recording of an ANTIFA meeting with timestamps in the description to prove my point. And your assertion that they aren't much more violent than a football game is not true either. Unfortunately, I didn't submit my edit before you hit the quote button so here's an excerpt:
"The Giants and Jets play at Metlife Stadium, which can seat up to 82,500 people. The 21.5-22.5 arrests per game equals to 0.26-0.27 arrests per 1000 people. At Heinz Field, the 16.8 arrests equals to 0.25 (or 16.8/68,200 x 1000) arrests per 1000 people. At the Oakland Colliseum, the 17.8 arrests equal to 0.32 (or 17.8/56,000 x 1000) arrests per 1000 people. At Berkley, there were 4000 protesters and 13 arrests, which make 3.25 arrests per 1000 people. At Boston, there were 40,000 protesters and 33 arrests, which make 0.825 arrests per 1000 people."
And while Rol is right that they don't always fill up all the seats, even when taking the actual attendances into account, the per capita rate at the football games are still significantly lower. Berkley is the only one where the per capita rate is above 1. In addition, you also have to consider what kinds of violence that are committed by ANTIFA vs those committed by football fans. A few from ANTIFA that I can remember off of my head is Eric Clanton splitting someone's head open with a bike lock and a woman wearing a parody of the MAGA hat getting pepper sprayed in the face. I don't recall crimes of this severity being committed at football games.
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Nazi's killed 6 million Jews. Protesters drove a truck into a group of counterprotesters. Why do they get a pass?
Any large group is going to have some messed up things. Doesn't matter what they stand for. If the group is large enough, there's going to be plenty of people advocating violence, regardless of what the majority says. There's probably a literal serial killer in Antifa. Does that mean the group advocates serial killing?
That audio doesn't prove anything. Can you source that it is authentic? Can you source that the nutjob actually speaks for the entirety of antifa?
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You are still not sticking to the topic and I'm also not giving them a pass. You are addressing a phantom argument and this is something you have already done twice.
If you don't believe in the authenticity of the video, then allow me to share the story that ANTIFA was running a website called "It's Going Down" and one of their sources of revenue was Patreon. However, Patreon removed ANTIFA funding page as the site's extremism violated Patreon community guidelines (presumably under the "Bullying, Harassment, Threats and Hate Speech" and "Facilitating Harmful or Dangerous Activity" guidelines). If your #NotAll argument held water, then someone in ANTIFA should've fixed the website so that it wouldn't violate Patreon's community guidelines. However, that didn't happen. So either ANTIFA is generally extremist or someone rational in ANTIFA tried to make the website more palatable, but the rest of the group opposed it.
