AngryLittleAlchemist said: Well too be fair, I never said Nintendo would do amazing. I'm just hoping so, as you said. By semi-big I meant Kirby, Yoshi, and Fire Emblem. I know that they might not be "big" games, but especially the former two I can see being great ways of convincing families to pick up a system(lol is that too stereotypical?) I know you made the point about lifetime, I just think those games could essentially carry the system out through some dry months. The PS4's library wasn't nearly as good as the Switch's in it's first year ... of course that's disregarding the many, many reasons the PS4 kept selling. In order for Nintendo to keep up momentum in 2018 ... they're going to need at least Animal Crossing and .... something else... |
@Bold Well that depends if those games are going to feature local multiplayer ... (the game mode is popular among families)
I'd argue the opposite regarding PS4's first year. You had rereleases like GTA V, TLOU, Minecraft, Diablo III and new IPs such as Destiny, Watch Dogs, Middle-Earth, Driveclub and returning IPs like the yearly sports releases (FIFA especially grew this generation), CoD, AC, Far Cry 4, Infamous along with Dragon Age: Inquisition but my list isn't even counting games that sold below 2M units on PS4 such as Little Big Planet 3, The Evil Within, The Crew, Wolfenstein, Rayman Legends or Alien: Isolation ...
I guess it would be bad idea to compare Sony systems to Nintendo systems in terms of releases since customers expect lot's of big 3rd party games on playstation while customers are content with a moderate amount of core Nintendo games ...
Agreed with the last line ... (I think we could have a 2D Mario on our hands for this one since it's relatively one of the easier titles to develop)
AngryLittleAlchemist said: See, this is why i'm a tad worried. I genuinely can't think of what that other game could be. Like we said, there's got to be at least two big hits per year. In my opinion, Nintendo's two biggest mistakes with the Switch thus far have been releasing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and the new Kirby and Yoshi game. With Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Nintendo is going to have to push development of the new Mario Kart back. When in reality, it didn't make much sense to release it in April. Sure, the game held the drought for immediate purchasers but Zelda alone was enough to carry sales long into June or July. Honestly, I think that was a big mistake on their part. A brand new Mario Kart in 2018 would have sold much better. Of course, it's possible that they couldn't have it out by then(wasn't it rumored the MK8 team were doing Arms?) but they probably could have gotten another internal studio to handle development, or release it earlier then they could now at least. |
Rereleasing MK8 is fine since it's just a port so not much resources was spent to get an immediate gain (although this could affect the boost with future entries since Nintendo is getting some Mario Kart customers to transition already)
What Nintendo needs IMO is a new big hit IP I think cause they really don't have that many options left ... (Once they've played, Zelda, Splatoon, 3D Mario, Animal Crossing and evntually in the future with Pokemon, Smash Bros, 2D Mario, maybe Donkey Kong and another Mario Kart they should be able to reach 50M units with the Switch but after that it gets noticeably harder to break past that wall)
AngryLittleAlchemist said: On Yoshi and Kirby, I think the problem is the lack of innovation. I feel Nintendo's design philosophy has been to chase after what made the N64 special. Games that aren't just innovative for their series, but also for their hardware. That works for Zelda and Mario, two games that innovative in both directions. Even for titles like Splatoon 2 and Xenoblade 2 ... iterative works ... those games are still pretty much a marvel for a handheld. A competitive tps and a huge RPG with PS3 graphics. But ... Kirby and Yoshi? Yeah, that's a problem. We've already seen how big franchises can be when they get refreshes, or at the very least suprises (DKCR) . These games will probably do the norm for Kirby and Yoshi, 2 - 2.5 mil and that's about it. The more I think about it, the more i'm thinking we might get a Pokemon Diamond and Pearl remake late next year .. but that just seems to early. I honestly don't know what they could possibly launch next year. I can only think of Animal Crossing as a big hit. Still, I'm hoping more than anything Retro releases their new ip. |
I thought it would be Pokemon Platinum that would be remade since it's already the enhanced version for Diamon/Pearl but it seems a little too early for a remake right now since Game Freak is busy doing Pokemon Ultrasun/Ultramoon which are an alternate games of the original instead of a direct enhancement like the previous installments ...
Would be interesting to see what Retro is doing, they could be producing another Donkey Kong game right now I imagine ...