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Goodnightmoon said:
Volterra_90 said:

By the way, the King's speech was an exercise of irresponsibility. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Well, I actually could, he's that good. He basically left out of the speech any responsibilities of the Spanish government, which is fucking insane, and he put all the blame basically on Catalonia. What the hell, man. I want too chose who represents me, this guy is just dumb.

About the education in Spain. Yes, it's shit, I think a large majority of students even agree of that. We don't debate practically anything, it's just a really memoristic approach. Just study what I told you to do and be quiet about it. I mean, generally speaking, I had the pleasure of having some teacher who really tried different. But generally speaking I was bored to tears in school and college. 

Agree, the king is not helpping at all with this situation, he didn't condmened what happened this Sunday, he didn't talked about dialogue, he was basically saying yes to the article 155 once catalonia declares independence, he puts all the blame on the catalan governement, he didn't even said some words in catalan or something to get close to the people there, nothing, this man has to go, I have nothing personal against him but he should understand there is no place for a King of Spain in this day and age specially since he is unable to do anything productive, he is like a very expensive vase.

And yes, education would be the first I would completely overhaul if i was president, its just really really bad, we should do what Finland does, that's a great exemple of good educative system.

Yeah, I agree. I mean, I didn't have any expectations about his speech. But he did even worse than I thought. Not a talk about dialogue, consensus, the 1-O violence, the acts of irresponsibility of the central government. Basically putting all the blame in Catalonia. That's irresponsible as hell. He just made things worse than they were, I'd prefer that he rather stayed silence for once. And we're paying for this... I thought he could act as an intermediate between both governments, so, no, that's not gonna happen for sure. Is everyone stupid? 

What's funny about education as that we went through a lot of changes in the last few years, and everything was worse that we had before. There were no dialogue with the colleges/schools representatives, the governments decided on their own. And that's not gonna end up well. We need a consensus between every Spanish parties to do an impartial, quality educative system. And, guess what? That's not going to happen, because everyone is too proud to do otherwise.