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Wright said:
SuperNova said:

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I eh...gotta question some of the things stated here.

· Abortion in Spain is legal. It's not "practically illegal" in any way or shape, any women over 18 can freely abort in either public or private clinics during the first three months, except the fact that a 2015's re-update makes minors (i.e. anyone under 18) require the consent (and presence) of their parents in order to abort, but they can do so if they have the consent. Any women can abort after 3 months if the pregnancy was a result of rape, if the child she's carrying has any defects, or if it poses any discernible threat to the woman's life.

· I'm not sure what's that all about chairs and tables, but I mainly have to question if it has any symbolism at all. Most classes I've been have fuck all tables and chairs in rows of 1-1, and my old school used to have shared table/chairs in 2-1 rows. I do agree that education needs an urgent revamp, but I can't really get anything of what you established using The Wave as an example. Try public schools. It's jungle territory, not mind-controlling symbolism.

· The two republics, Spanish Civil War, Franco's regime and the Transition are mandatory in History classes. Second year of high-school has a mandatory "Spanish history" section that no one can avoid, and these are also added into Selectivity if you're trying to aim for any universitary degree. While high-school (once you've done Primary and Secondary, which are mandatory for every single spanish citizen) is optional, you're forced to do so if you want to access university. In other words, every single university student, whether he has finished or not, knows about all those things I've mentioned. Heck, without anything to back me up me here, I can safely say people remember more about these things than let's say, Primo de Rivera's dictatorship or Amadeo de Saboya's short-lived status as Spanish king.

· What do you mean "they'd never written an essay"? Essays are mandatory and extensively touched during Spanish classes (heck, there's even things like Sintax analysis which no one likes because it's useless as fuck, but it's also incorporated into these at times). Essays are also an integral part of Selectivity (especially if you choose something like Philosophy), because you are basically required to make an extensive essay after careful analysis of a text as part of the Spanish subject. If your boyfriend had to relearn anything at university, it's because universities prefer their own essay model rather than the one being taught at schools, but that doesn't mean there isn't an essay model at schools.

· I can honestly say "blind patriotism" is not part of any school. I'm not sure if you mean something like signing "Cara al sol" during classes, but I doubt that's being done today even in private, overly-religious schools. Maybe your boyfriend had the worst of luck when choosing his school, but absolutely nothing of this has happened in any school I know where friends have studied. Heck, there's a massive disregard of the authority at public schools.

This information is provided by someone who has been living and studying more than 18 years of his live in an island, which bears admittely some of the worst schools and universities you can find in the entirety of Spain.

EDIT: as Goodnightmoon also stated, Spain has also accomodated two new parties after the past elections; a center-right group called Ciudadanos, and a left party called Podemos, elevating the total number of main parties in Spain to four, having two (ahem with one of them) parties leaning left, and two parties leaning right, with no discernible extreme-right presence at all in the Congress (if memory serves me right, the Animalist party even got more votes than the far-right one). If for some reason we assume your comments are right and there's blind patriotism and far-right symbolism in schools, it's having the opposite effect in the people.

Easy explanation: His boyfirend could be from Andalusia (or a community with similar PISA results).

The abortion thing almost happened too. Remember Gallardon?