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Ka-pi96 said:

heh, I got Wight to post. Haven't seen you in awhile actually!

You keep saying the referendum was illegal though, but in what basis? I was under the impression that it was passed through the Catalan parliament. I know the national government declared it illegal (most likely as an attempt to prevent it) but did they have any actual basis for that. Not as if I'd agree with it even if they did though.

I just said the Govern was sanctioned by the Constitutional Tribunal, and there's also the fact that you can't make a referendum that directly contradicts the basics of the Constitution without previous pact with the centralized goverment (a Constitutional reform, in this case), which they totally jumped over.

Regions can pass their own laws as long as they respect the Constitution, as stated in the Constitution itself. A referendum that claims the sovereign and total independence of a region, when the Constitution itself states that this isn't possible, does not respect the Constitution. Therefore, it's illegal.

This is not the first illegal referendum Catalonia has done. After the first one, they were heavily critizised, sanctioned (and they ignored this last part entirely) and were demanded not to do this again without first making an established agreement with the goverment and rest of the political parties (bear in mind, some of these political parties do support Catalonia). European Union didn't agree to Catalonia's actions, either. Yesterday, Brussels also deemed Catalonia's actions illegal, even though they also critizised the police response from the central Goverment.