The prophecy of John, aka Apocalypse, aka End of the World.

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ResidentToxy said:

o_O.Q said:

 

i don't believe the bible is supposed to be taken absolutely literally... i think that under proper interpretations the core values are beneficial for people to adhere to...

for example i believe the story with regards to adam and eve is the story of man evolving from primitive to modern man and the consequences of gaining self awareness

i don't think "the flood" was really about water levels rising and everything being physically destroyed besides an ark, but about what happens when societies become too corrupt

only dumb people would think that story is literally about a talking snake or really about a physical flood imo and even dumber people would dismiss it out of hand without further investigation to figure out what is actually being said and why it had such a profound impact on society...

 

but lets just watch and see where society goes to when the core values are thrown away and a relativistic mindset takes over

 

anyone who's looking objectively can already see that things are starting to unravel

The bible is supposedly the word of god. So if you cannot interpret what it says literally, that means that the word of god is flawed. If people have to constantly twist the bible to mean what they want it to mean, they may as well write their own book that contains the meanings that are better suited their own agenda. Which they essentially do, considering the dominant religions are Abrahamic. 

You do not need religion to have morals. Religious people will state otherwise because they have a god-complex. They are better than everyone else, including other religious people. The only exception is if they believe in the same religion, and they interpret said religion the same way. Otherwise, they believe that a loving god condemns everyone to burn for eternity for not believing in him. 
If god were real, all god would have to do is reveal him or herself. 

The concept of religion is to have faith in a psychopath. The psychopath never reveals themself to the world, yet the world must believe in and love this psychopath. If not, the psychopath will both condemn and torture them for eternity. 

People educating themselves and showing more compassion towards others will benefit society. Whereas believing in Doomsday theories and fairy tales will just lead to stagnation.

"The bible is supposedly the word of god. So if you cannot interpret what it says literally, that means that the word of god is flawed"

 

i don't really believe that the bible is the product of a god, i don't completely dismiss that idea because i just don't know, i think its more likely that it came about as the result of repeated observations of human behavior over a long period of time, out of which certain conclusions were made

 

but regardless, what you've posted here is not true, information can be encoded in different ways for different purposes, an example being the fact that right now our communications are encoded into bit streams and sent over miles as electrical pulses 

 

"You do not need religion to have morals."

 

true

 

" Otherwise, they believe that a loving god condemns everyone to burn for eternity for not believing in him. "

 

many do and many don't, its about as silly as the claim atheists make that if we could just get rid of all religion then there would be universal peace

 

it shows they don't have the slightest clue about what the real issue is and that is that people all by themselves without religion are limited with regards to their perception of the world and it is that limitation that causes conflict, not religion

 

"The concept of religion is to have faith in a psychopath"

 

no it degenerates into that very often, i'll totally concede that, but no the core principle of religion is to abide by principles that transcend the limited scope of human perception such as fear or love

 

something else that you are missing here is that psychopaths can move herds of people even more easily without religion, because then all they have to do is stroke the ego of their targets, at least with religion they have to tip toe around the core principles and bend and distort them

 

"People educating themselves and showing more compassion towards others will benefit society."

 

yes, if only people were entirely rational and always worked towards bettering themselves and their community