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WagnerPaiva said:

So, I had a grand grandfather who once told me the book of Revelation is not supposed to be read.

Believe it or not, this opinion was common like 100 years ago.

Why?

Because the Book of Revelation, aka Apocalypse, was embarassing to christianity.

It was so absurd, so out of touch and time, that it was shameful to talk about it.

John was considered by many critics, just a senile lunatic raving about fever dreams while he wrote Apocalypse.

Example, the book mentioned Israel many many times, the country...

And, of course, ISrael no longer existed...

However, in 1948 Israel became a nation once again. Then, the book of Revelation suddenly became less and less weird.

So, let us list some of the prophecies in the book:

1 - One world government under one leader (not yet acomplished)

2 - Worldwide transmission of images and sound live (in place)

3 - One single currency for the whole world, mark of the beast (in talks right now)

4 - One world religion that adores the Beast (in talks)

5- Concentration camps to kill christians (not yet acomplished)

6- Environment disasters that cause famine (not yet acomplished)

7 - Opening of dimensional portals that bring strange dangerous creatures to this realm (not yet acomplished)

8- Worldwide conflict and war (not yet acomplished)

9 - Return of Jesus Christ as a super powerful warrior with supernatural powers (came as a lamb, returns as a lion prophecy).

Could the parts about outer dimensional monsters one day become as common place as the tv and internet mentions?

Could maybe CERN be the gate to the abyss mentioned in the book?

Could some disaster bring about the one world governmente predicted by John, the apostle?

Could indeed a worlwide ban on christianity take place someday?

To me the Book of Revelation is the most fascinating piece of writting that ever existed, specially because tons of verses once thought ridiculous suddenly become reality as time passes.

Discuss.

You need to rember that a) the world view of an Israelite in the time following the death of Christ was very limited (didn't know America, Australia existed, perhaps once heard of China in the passing, probably not) b) much of what they *did* know was conquered by Rome, the empire being at the hight of expansion.

 

From their perspective, one "world" government with common currency, common language, 1 leader (it's an empire), persecution of christians (already in place) and worshipping of "Satan" (which was literally any religion except their own for the jewish people of the time) all seemed much more likely than it is today. Famine and war was also much more frequent at the time, and dimensional portals are as much part of fiction nowadays as they were at the time. 

 

So no, I don't really see it.



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