| DuncanMcNeil said: First, evolution is not chance, anyone who has taken even a basic biology course knows the theory of evolution is far from chance. It is theoretically evolution that has taught us it is right to protect the weak, but it has nothing to do with the topic. Second, all hate in the world caused by belief in god would not occur if such a personal god existed. Third, we're all atheists in some respect, just some of us have taken it one god further than most. Forth, the argument that we should do things to make a god - a man who lives in the sky - happy, is ridiculous. Doing good things matter enough just because they're good. It would take a sick person who ONLY did good things because they don't want to burn in hell, this sick person - IS most religious people, and thus MOST people on earth. Fifth, there is no reason to believe in something there is no proof of, god is literally santa claus for adults. There is no more proof that a magical giant teapot floats around in space, than there is of god (borrowing the line from Dawkins). Someone will say, I'm certain, that such beliefs are not malignant - but when they create wars, and restrict my freedoms - they are. The more ridiculous the worse it is when it has power over society. Sixth, if god heals people... why doesn't god heal amputees? Seems wrong to me. If god was perfect.. he would heal them as well. But there has NEVER been anyone who grew limbs back. Or maybe it is wrong of me to question who god maims and who he doesn't, I am so silly. |
I'll try to make this concise.
1) I never stated that the theory of evolution was simply a matter of blind chance. But we are still talking about theory. The fact that you mentioned that it is theorhetically evolution means that you don't know for sure. And agreed, it has nothing to do with the topic.
2) *Belief* in God and whether or not God *really* exists are two seperate topics. If I don't believe in the existence of aliens from other planets, it doesn't mean that they don't exist. The converse is also true. Again, we're not here to point out all the hypocritical things in organized religion today or in history.
3) I guess I have no response to that.
4) Sorry, don't have much of a response to that either. You have to be more specific than *most poeple on earth.* I can assure you that many religious people do things for other reasons rather than fear of going to hell. In fact, I'm pretty sure many atheists do good things for other reasons rather than fear of hell. Since when did *doing the good thing* become such a bad thing in your eyes?
5) *proof* and evidence are two seperate things. In a court case, we have *evidence*: the weapon, the motive, the opportunity, witnesses etc. etc. but unless the jury actually went back in time to see the crime happen, there's no 100% PROOF. But in our world we can make a safe bet that with enough evidence, the jury can be sure that they made the right call as to guity of innocent.
So right now we are the jury. I would argue that we have lots of circumstantial evidence. The universe, life, the laws of nature, etc. etc. As the jury, we have to put the pieces together ourselves and make a conclusion. Saying that you believe in God/don't believe in God without careful consideration would be the same as saying someone was guilty/not guilty without looking at any evidence or testimony.
6) *if* God heals people? From where do you make that conjecture? The bible? where? I cannot respond to your points if you are making statements out of nowhere.
