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Frogger on 25 September 2017
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mZuzek said:
spemanig said:

My speculation has always been that SM was supposed to end the series, but then he read that manga and got a bunch of ideas that, naturally, ran counter to the universe he and Yokoi previously built. Now Metroid is trying to be a shitty shonen story with a shitty shonen protagonist who now has shitty shonen abilities with a shitty shonen presentation. (that I'll admit was toned down in SR). That's where Fusion's crappy plot/linearity, Zero Mission's Zero Suit and canonization of the manga at the end, Other M's everything, and SR's focus on showmanship and flashy action instead of actual substance come from. I think.

"Everything that isn't original trilogy Metroid sucks! Nintendo, give me my Metroid back!"

I'm sorry, but that really is what you sound like at this point. It's obvious the franchise changed direction a good bit, that much was inevitable because it was originally supposed to end in Super, but you sound incapable of accepting any different take on it just because it's different, regardless of it being good or not.

I don't care how much you might want to say otherwise, Fusion was an amazing game and its plot was not only awesome on its own, it also expanded enormously upon some of the Metroid lore involving the Chozo, SR388, the Galactic Federation and the Metroids themselves. It gave a lot of depth to a story that was previously extremely basic and simplistic, and it did so in a completely natural way that didn't hold back Fusion's own story. It also brought with it some amazing intense/downright terror moments with the SA-X, loads of amazing bosses like Nightmare, and it showed a much darker side of the Metroid universe with the whole corrupt Federation and how that relates to Samus's actions. Yes, Fusion is linear, and has loads of dialogue. Does that make a game inherently lame? No, it just makes it harder to swallow for people who are incapable of accepting change.

I agree Other M is shit. I too don't like Zero Mission's added stuff at the end, and I too don't like cringy cutscenes showing Samus as a "badass" in SR or the Prime Trilogy. However, I can put those grievances aside and enjoy the games for what they are, which is, pure awesome as they've always been (again, excluding Other M).

I don't think M1 or M2 are exceptional games. In many ways, I'd rather play SR than M2 even though I think M2 is the better game. (say what?) Also ZM is my second favorite 2D Metoid. So, you know, wrong again.

Fusion was just the precursor to Other M. It's plot was almost as bad, and explained things that were better left unknown because the direction Fusion goes with much of this stuff is so contrived. What's funny is that, after SR I don't even want to criticize Fusion because Fusion is sooo much better. It's more linear than SR and it's STILL better.

There's nothing I can say to argue against Fusion's atmosphere. Love the SA-X. Love the X-Parasite. Love the atmosphere. Love the sound design. Love the music. Love the boss fights. Love the power grip and climbing. Love moments like when the SA-X tries to take out the Metroids and gets overwhelmed because that's one of the best moments of silent story telling in the series. Fusion is my (now second) least favorite 2D metroid, but that doesn't mean I think there's nothing good about it or that it's shit. Just that it's story and linearity are, and that it would be a much better metroid game without them being the way they are.

Also, I was wrong. The manga came out after fusion, so my life and theory are a sham anyway. Sakamoto just had a bad idea, someone made a manga after it, and then he canonized that into Zero mission, which frankly is even more depressing.