StarOcean said:
vivster said:
I think a domestic war would just exacerbate the problem. Put the US even more in its favorite victim role and "prove" all those right wing fear mongers right.
What would be a lot more effective would be a complete economic collapse.
It would make them even more dependant of foreign aid, weakening the national ego.
Gun violence may increase which may prompt stricter enforcement of gun control.
It would make them spend less on defense.
It would make many more people dependant on welfare, expanding social programs.
Lower overall income would make the government crack down on shady financial institutions and the out of control pharma industry.
Government would maybe have some motivation for tax reform and cracking down on tax evaders.
That's all hypothetical of course but it sounds nice. The US has mostly made policy from a position of strength and rarely out of weakness, which explains why there are so few policies that help the weak or create safenets in case of sudden weakness.
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Hmm.. so you believe something like a larger recession would benefit the country then?
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Theoretically maybe. I don't know how entrenched exactly the ideologies are. It might not do shit or make it worse. Not that I wish it upon them but I am convinced that only a big event like that would change things noticeably.
I mean look at the shit that happened in Flint. Did that change anything about government regulation? Thousands of people suffering is apparently not enough for change. At this point I'm not even convinced that a large scale nuclear disaster at a power plant would change much.
