German election tomorrow

[vivster]

StarOcean said:

vivster said:

Definitely. But it won't happen because neither party wants to lose elections. If one of the parties splits and the other doesn't it's gonna be a disaster. So people have to live with the fact that both parties will try to cater to the extremists and moderates at the same time. And thanks to a voting system that shits on the very principals of democracy 3rd parties won't have a chance in the first place.

Politics in the US is a complete joke and an insult to democracy itself. It degenerated to nothing more than entertainment with rabid fans on both sides that don't play around with a football but with actual human lives. It's not about policy, it's only about winning, or at least the other side losing.

Hit the nail on the head. In your opinion, had Bernie won, do you think that would have opened the door to a 3rd party? Or do you think that very idea is what led him not to be nominated vs Hillary by the Democrats?

I don't think so. As independant as Bernie is, he's still very much associated with the Democrats. I don't think his independant status has anything to do with him being tossed to the sidelines. He just wasn't what the democrat establishment wanted. He was only catering to the left side of the democrats so he couldn't have won either way.

To give 3rd parties any chance whatsoever you would need a complete voting reform and that wouldn't even happen with Bernie as president.