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Soundwave said:
Boutros said:

Again the PS2 is the only home console to sell over 20m in Japan. But that doesn't make it a threshold. The Wii ended at 12.5m and that was hardly seen as a failure. The PS3 ended with only 2m behind the Wii. And the PS4 will be at over 6m after 4 years (not 5m) and could end up with 10m if the PS5 doesn't come out too early. Yeah the console industry is in decline but it's hardly "shit". As long as software publishers find profitability (and they do) then home consoles will remain relevant in Japan.

Actually I have no problem saying the Wii was a relative dud in Japan. After a great start it really fizzled out there big time. 10 mill as the best case scenario is "shit" to me. That's a very low baseline. 

Then you have high standards. Like it or not Japan market has declined compared to booming sales in the west. I am not saying expectations should be Wii U level, but selling Wii level is perfectly fine and a big success, especially if the price of the console/ software is higher.