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cmay227 said:
o_O.Q said:

first off the us put saddam in power 

 

and i use iraq because that's the most obvious example where millions of people died (which you seem to think isn't a big deal i guess)

 

"And to blame terrorist on America is just plain dumb."

 

well not if you fund them, arm them and train them

 

Millions is a greatly overstated number.  Maybe 500,000 deaths over the last decade. The desicion to arm what you call terrorist is before so called people were considered terrorist. That's just reaching. You'd rather let's hundreds of thousands of people die untill you took action. If a person walks into a mall with a ar15 do you wait till they kill 2, 3 , 10 , 20 people before you say. Oh shit this guy is bad news let's take him out. Or do you take him out before he has a chance to kill? Especially if there is a history of killing by this person.  How many have to die before you can justify attacking someone?  Give me a number.

 

really? 500 000 deaths between iraq, lybia, syria in addition to other lesser conflicts? as far as i know iraq  alone is over 2 million civilian deaths

 

what would those people have died from alternatively? saddam? so why did they put him in power to begin with and support him initially?

secondly they claimed that the reason they had to invade iraq was to find weapons of mass destruction, this was their main stated goal, not saving the people of iraq from abuse ( which would be dumb since they just ended up killing more people than he ever could and destroying their infrastructure )