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VGPolyglot said:
o_O.Q said:

exactly the peasants that lived under the monarchies of the past (similar in my opinion to what communism really is code for) suffered for centuries with no hope of advancement till the era of the enlightenment came which put emphasis on the importance of the liberty of the individual and independence

 

the ancestors of the people of most of the western nations fought to give the people of western nations the chance to live outside of the oppressive rule of something like communism or feudalism, where people actually have a chance for improvement

 

and now many people for some reason(stupidity presumably) are ready to throw that away and become peasants again... its so bizarre to me that i just can't wrap my head around it

Strange, considering that I live under a monarchy right now, and I definitely don't want its existence.

you live in a hierarchy and there is absolutely no chance that you will ever not live under a hierarchy... there are always going to be people who are better tan you and better at gathering resources than you, who are going to be more popular etc etc etc

 

the difference now is that you live in a hierarchy that if you aren't lazy and apply yourself you can rise up and carve out a decent or better lifestyle for yourself

 

under a hierarchy where you give up that right to auhtority figures you won't have that ability

 

which one is preferable? to be have as much control over your destiny as possible? or let others dictate that for you?