Chris Hu said:
Well first of all there is actually zero evidence that Jesus ever existed but yeah he was a big time socialist because he cared about the poor, the disabled and the disenfranchised. |
I'm atheist, but you were the one claiming he was socialist.
Caring about the poor, disabled and all else and giving yourself to that cause is called charity not socialism. Socialism is demanding that others do it, and they usually are the biggest hypocrites since they preach it but keep their richness to themselves.
o_O.Q said:
" it would be complete free market capitalism with zero rules and regulations that way there is no limit on how much wealth they can accumulate"
so people can challenge them through working hard? and if its free market what is stopping the other individuals in the society from working hard and gaining their own piece of the wealth of the nation?
"that way there is no limit on how much wealth they can accumulate"
if the elite are the ones running the communist system which inevitably happens why would they limit themselves? does it not occur to you that someone has to be at the head of the communist system? why would that person put limitations on themself?
what really happens is that the limitations of the communist system all fall on the regular people of the society and they are used to funnel resources back to the elite, which is the reason for the communist system to start with... its like what happened under the monarchies of the past to the peasants
"how much they can screw over people that make a whole lot less then they do."
how can they screw over people under a free market where there are no restrictions? can you explain that? |
And as far as I remember most of the powerfull, rich and billionaires on the end of ex-URSS had ties to the top brass and were involved in the black market allowed by those top brass to benefit themselves.
And I rather have Bill Gates making 100000x more than me and I still living plenty than have Boris earn 4x more than me and I starve, inequality isn't the real enemy as we both agreed and Chris try to deny.
And you put it very well that without the incentive to excell there is no progress. Capitalism is based not only in excell but also on making what the market needs and attending those demands earn you money, so basically most people that got rich (outside of corruption and crime) were providing value and improvement to the world and deserved their money.
Capitalism in 200 years improved standard of lifes uncomparably more than the 20000 years before it. The king of xix century lived worse than a poor people (that isn't starving) of today.
Case in point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."