World gone mad: Music conductor fired for making racist joke even though "victim" says no.

[DonFerrari]

Machiavellian said:

DonFerrari said:

Nope Jesus didn't want to overthrow Rome, nor did he wanted to FORCE others to get their things picked and distributed, he incentived solidarity and that happens a lot in capitalism.

Except there was no joke and no racism. There were two friends teasing each other. One mocked his british accent all the time while the other said in southern accent "you want some gritty?". Where is the racist joke in this?

 

@o_O.Q  sorry lost the multiquote for you: yes macking opportunities more spread is the way.

That is where the problem is.  When is it just a joke and when is it a demeaning statement.  Case in point would be if two people were talking loud enough to be heard by someone else.  One person makes a demeaning joke concerning a race and then someone of that race over hears it.  This is the same case.  It does not matter if two people are friends when it comes to this type of issue. You leave those jokes at home, with your friends in a bar but not when you are at work.  The ambiguity is what gets people in trouble because in those situations it cannot be determined the context of such comments.  This is why most hand books and videos on the subject just say do not do it.  It’s the world we live in and your place of work isn’t the total free speech place to make such jokes.  I know this on a very personal level because I been there. I taught classes and makes jokes all the time.  Even the most innocent joke can rub someone the wrong way and you find yourself trying to explain you way out of it and it’s just not worth it.  

Even when there is no joke? Even when the other part didn't said "it didn't bothered me" but "it wasn't racism", and someone that wasn't even of that race decided by herself that it was racist and needed the person to lose his job?

The issue as I have told before is show on the college over-reacting, doing a kneejerk reaction to fire the person and then having to make a deal with the person to not escalate the problem. Even when you can fire without reason, if you give reason and it's prosecution you will face problems.

And again you go there and ignore what you can't take back. You compared someone being fired for someone else "interpretation" of a remark as racist (white against black) to a reprimend of a real case of prejudice (someone vs redneck) and put on same level.

PC isn't about making the environment better to everyone, it's about prosecuting against those the movement disagree. We have had several cases of people making remarks on one side being demonized, but when the other side makes similar remarks they will get apologetical and say about there is no reverse racism, there is no prejudice against the ones in power, and even if let's say a feminist bad mouth a black men the movement will just pretend nothing happened because they are friends.

In Brazil we had a politician being prosecuted because he said his adversary DIDN'T deserve to be rapped (this adversary was defending two rappist saying they were victms of society and as such didn't deserve to be in jail, and also accused the other politician of being a rapist himself), the same people that defended his prosecution just shut down when a teacher begged that someone rapped a journalist. In case you need clarification the prosecuted politician was related to right wing the adversary was a left wing politician, the teacher was left wing oriented and the journalist right wing oriented.

So the madworld the OP talks about is basically this. For one side it will make every single innocent remark into a criminal offense while making the criminal behaviour on the other side a minor mischeave.