By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
Jaicee said:
TargaryenVers2 said:
I wonder how many people here have actually read her book

I suspect I am the only person here who has even read part of it.

eva01beserk said:

Even the young turks are critical of this. I thought I never would have seen the day. Even demcrats are getting sick of her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqlM78a0Gc 

"Even the Young Turks"? Here's a news flash for those who haven't been keeping up: The Young Turks opposed Clinton in the Democratic primaries in both 2008 and 2016 and have ALWAYS been critical of her. They still endorsed her after she won the Democratic nomination, but my point is: Why should one be shocked that they maintain the same critiques they've always had of her now?

I'm not uncritical of her either (I did vote for Bernie Sanders in the primaries and my own political views are, in actuality, well to the left of his), but I am also very much a pragmatist and one who tends to view candidates for public office as human (with the possible exception of our current president), and yes I do indeed think that there were a mountain of factors besides Hillary Clinton's in reality minor shortcomings (like failing to visit this or that state, speaking with unnecessary caution, changing a couple of stances between 1994 and 2016 like no one else has ever done, etc.) and that Clinton's assessment of what those were in her new book isn't way off base.

Cant say I would know much since I hate the young turks and barely saw any of their talks after berney vs hillary. But they where 100% sure hillary was going to win and mostly critized trump. Now they always knew for some reason dint care back then. 

There are always factors, its never a walk in park. If she could not handle opositin then she should just say so.

I Will say this in her favour, the media did an awfull job as well, by being so bias that they tried to make everything sound good in her favour.. That would just make people doubt. the rig debates. Belittling  everything trump said. Every critisim she got was brushed off as nonimportant. They gave her so much spotlight on nonsense about her being the first woman president instead of what her actual policies where. 

only 25% of her tv spotlight was policies. the rest was Im a woman and trump sucks.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/8/14848636/hillary-clinton-tv-ads 



It takes genuine talent to see greatness in yourself despite your absence of genuine talent.