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iron_megalith on 07 September 2017
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Soundwave said:
iron_megalith said:

Then why didn't Obama push harder for their naturalization and go the extra mile for enforcing immigration policies? He shouldn't be talking shit at Trump because he has a hand in this fucking mess. He did a half-assed job by leaving a temporary stop gap such as this that is so fucking exploitablr. Are you seriously buying into this crap?

 

Take California for example. They're enabling illegal immigrants by giving them all the bullshit welfare crap yet those who contributed are given a smaller and sometimes a hard time.

Because he was obstructed at every turn by freakishly hysterical Republicans who blocked every thing he would propose. If it was entirely up to Obama, this would've been open and shut. 

Trump will likely just "rebrand" DACA, make it law and take credit for it, much like he takes credit for Obama's economy (dude hasn't passed any financial legislation to begin with, Republicans can't even get a budget passed). It seems like even he does not want this on his plate because there are real consequences to this and he knows full well it will lead to very ugly TV for him.

Most Americans agree actually that the solution here is simple: legalize illegals who have been here and have no criminal record. Get them paying taxes if they're not. Republican party is held hostage by the fanatical lunatic fringe of their party, that's the hold up, it's 10% of the country holding the rest at gun point, but even on this I don't think even Trump agrees with that lunatic fringe. 

Latino community is a huge part of America and they contribute massively to the US, I read a study showing more than 70% of new small businesses in the US come from the Latino/Hispanic demographic group ... they are absolutely driving new business in this country. 

Just like how everything Trump does is blocked by Democrats right?

No. His failure is inexcusable. Same with the rest that went before him. This wasn't some overnight problem. This accumulated through time. Everyone just let them be as if they're given full consent. As I said before in some threads, small problems are always ignored, up until it blows in everyone's faces. We never learn.

Also that study is nice and all but that doesn't represent the problems we have with enforcing immigration policies. I say America needs to be less socialistic and reassess the middle grounds to find a much fair stand point in this matter. If done legally that these kids are given opportunities to be legal citizens, then by all means do it but don't leave them in status quo because they're "special". However I do not agree if such laws or acts will be abused by future illegal immigrants. Putting a catch basin on a broken pipe is not a permanent fix. And this is what Obama did with his DACA. Left it as such. He had so much time to push his agendas and step on people's foot but he never addressed the problem with enforcing immigration on the problematic states.