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konnichiwa on 04 September 2017
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Pyro as Bill said:
Teeqoz said:

Yeah whoops, forgot about that. It's completely feasible for the vast majority of the human population to be scientists and programmers.

 

Wait...

No offence but I'll take the Invisible Hand over a socialist's crystal ball and tarot cards.

konnichiwa said:

Not really, their is a stabilisation in 70's/80's/90's after it always went up. the financial collapse was 10 years ago and we still are so much lower.

All I am saying is not coming from socialist sources in contrary, in 2009 democrats/replubicans alike were saying that the participation rate will go up and automation will do nothing harmfull wise but they were wrong.  Also I never posted that we needed an universal basic income but we need to discuss about what we can do in an what if scenario.

I only see the facts.  We are not in a recession for multiple years 5-7 years? and normally the participation rate would go up but it didn't so what's going to happen in the next recession? 

You need to stop being robophobic. Sure some may cause harm due to their programming but the vast majority are hard working and massively contribute to the well being of our society, they just want a better life for themselves and their family human beings.

#Notallautomatons

Confusing, I already stated that automation benefits the people in the end but it isn't creating more jobs and that is what I mean with harmfull. A small example was a coal mine in Kentucky that employed 1500 people but wanted to go with automation/software and investing hardly in new machines. The company was nice and let most of them follow the course/train them for the job but at the end only needed a few hundred people.  What should the +1000 others do? Mostly people who worked 20*30 years in this industry? Nobody really have an answer for them.  Except for 'If you want to work you always find work' or 'Stop being lazy' or even worse 'they are just fecking deplorables'. Those + 1000 people would vote against an universal basic income and so would I at the moment but that's why I would love a workforce trying to find a solution.