| KBG29 said: Concerning the 10 - 12 TFLOPS. That is what I keep seeing from people on various sites. I in no way see that as PS5 levels. IMO that would be a PS4 premium/ a step above the Pro.
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Agreed.
| KBG29 said: For SSD prices see here: I fully expect SSD prices to be well below HDD prices by 2021, and also in massively larger capacities. |
2021 is still a long way away.
All you need is for a factory fire to reduce the amount of NAND production for prices to sky rocket.
Or a new electronics device that increases NAND demand.
And if you read that link... Samsung intends to offer a 512GB SSD for the same price as 1 Terayte HDD in 2020, thus a mechanical disk will still hold the capacity+price advantage even in 2020, which is an important aspect as consoles are cost-sensitive devices.
Plus Hard Drives aren't going to stop progressing either, even that article alludes to the fact that a 1 Terabyte mechanical drive isn't the most cost-effective from a price/capacity standpoint.
| NATO said: Look at some of the last ps3 and xbox 360 games compared to ps4/xbo launch titles, there was very little improvement. |
To be fair... The transition from the original Xbox to Xbox 360 was a fairly small improvement as well.
| KBG29 said: On the same note, I expect HBM RAM to see the same massive cost reduction, and massive capacity increases over the next few years. |
Depends on what happens on the manufacturing front.
Vega's HBM 2 doesn't come cheap.
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/43731-vega-hbm-2-8gb-memory-stack-cost-160
And Hynix even went out and said that customers are willing to pay 2.5x more for HBM2.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11690/sk-hynix-customers-willing-to-pay-more-for-hbm2-memory
Now Samsung has been floating around ideas by releasing a Low-Cost HBM, by removing the silicon interposer which is a big chunk of costs and going with an organic approach... And by reducing how wide the HBM stack is... And relying on clock rates to make up the bandwidth difference.
Potentially, GDDR6 could end up superior to that anyway.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10589/hot-chips-2016-memory-vendors-discuss-ideas-for-future-memory-tech-ddr5-cheap-hbm-more
| KBG29 said: I believe PS5 will come in multiple tiers from day one. Basically for example, I see a Ryzen 3 + Vega 56 + 64GB HBM + 4TB SSD at $400, R5 + Vega 64 + 96GB HBM + 8TB SSD at $600, R7 + Vega 64 WC + 128GB HBM + 16TB SSD at $1000. This is only an example, I know they won't be using Ryzen and Vega in 2021, and of course the RAM and SSD size will depend on advances/price by then |
If you know they won't be using Ryzen and Vega, then why use it in your example? ;)
Well. I hope Sony starts next-gen with a grunty machine and then naturally releases new tiers as technology improves/decreases in costs.
You need the baseline to start high.
| KBG29 said: I just expect to see Sony continue to move towards being more and more comptetive with PC going forward. |
The PC will always sit on top of the technology stack going forward... As long as consoles are using cost-reduced PC hardware, they cannot beat the PC.
| KBG29 said: This is based on my expereince with VR, and the idea that it is going to become the next smartphone like boom in the tech industry. |
I expect it to fizzle out.
There have been closures, market hasn't "taken off" after 12 months... And more. Lots of hopes, no action.
www.youtube.com/@Pemalite
