| KBG29 said: I really hope that is not the case. People are seriously expecting PS5 to be a 10 - 12TFLOP machine with 16GB of RAM though. So perhapps you are right. If consumers are that unknowledgeable about console gens, then maybe the manufacturers do just offer half step products going forward. |
10-12 Teraflops in 2021?
If AMD continues the refinement of GCN like it has and continues to have a heavy emphasis on compute... And considering Vega 64 is almost 14 Teraflops while boosting... I would expect next gen to exceed that by a mile, especially if the chips are built at TSMC/Global Foundries 7nm process.
The ram amount realloy depends on the memory technology and how wide the bus width is.
If Microsoft/Sony opts for a memory bus that exceeds 256-bit like the Xbox One X's 384bit memory bus, then expect something more like 24GB of Ram if it's based around GDDR5X or GDDR6.
| KBG29 said: We should also be able to have SSD as a standard, and a very large pool of HBM RAM. |
If mechanical Hard Drives continue to have the Capacity to Cost advantage, then an SSD will not happen.
Some games are already starting to exceed 100GB, Halo 5 could approach 150GB~ once it's been "Xbox One X Enhanced". - You won't get far next gen if game installs increase yet again and SSD's still haven't affordably smashed the 1 Terabyte barrier.
As for HBM. There are reasons why that is unlikely to happen as well.
It all comes down to price/performance, consoles are cost-sensitive devices, they typically use low-end to mid-range components that hit certain price points.
| KBG29 said: Remember also, every PlayStation to date has had ~16x the RAM of its predecessor. That would mean next gen consoles should have 128GB of RAM. It shounds crazy right now, but by 2021 it will make sense. Not only do we need to go from 2K to 4K assest, but we also have to do it twice for VR. Next gen consoles need to have a massive boost in power, memory, storage, and speed. |
Ram density to Price ratios haven't improved like they have in prior years.
Hoping for 128GB of Ram is a silly expectation.
As for VR... That could all fizzle out by next gen, just like Motion Controls and 3D.
People made outlandish claims of what hardware to expect out of this console generation, some even expected the Switch to be faster than the Xbox One/Playstation 4... But when hardware hasn't met a certain price/performance bracket, then it's not happening.
| fatslob-:O said: More memory isn't all that ideal, I'd rather have faster memory ... (PS4 would still be more power if it only had 4GB of GDDR5 so I'd prefer PS5 be 16GB of HBM3 than 32/64 GB of GDDR6.) |
To a point.
Once you start hitting memory limits you need to make cutbacks to various assets, like texture quality.
I would prefer to have a wide and large pool of GDDR6 over a smaller pool of HBM.
32GB of GDDR6 should be feasible on a 256bit memory bus in 2021 and provide 512GB/s.
Or... It could be 24GB of GDDR6 on a 384-bit bus and offer 768GB/s of bandwidth.
Still under the belief that HBM isn't going to happen due to it's costs.
| monocle_layton said: How strong will the new consoles be if they release in 2021? Slightly below a 1070? |
So not much better than the Xbox One X then?
In 2021 Pascal, Vega, Ryzen, Coffee Lake will all be "old news".
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