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Superman4 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Jesus, not everything is about gun rights

No its not, but when you are talking about police overstepping it quickly becomes an issue. With no way to defend yourself from a corrupt system you lose the ability to fight back effectivly. You essentially become a police state. Do you think that by banning guns or weapons in general that the police will approach any situation differently? They will still be just a quick to shoot because making something illigal doesnt stop criminals from doing it.

No, stop. You are trying to justify a discussion about gun rights when that's not what this is about at all. VGPolygot mentioned numerous ways in which cops were put in a position of power, and you used that to derail discussion into gun rights. It has nothing to do with gun rights, any citizen who meets the requirements for a gun can easily get one. This women probably could easily get a gun if she wanted one. Hell, she might even have one. We don't know what her situation is, but it clearly had nothing to do with guns. Even if someone has a gun, the police still have significant advantages over them. Their job literally requires them to be wary and on edge 24/7. Most people who go through their everyday lives are not trained like that, they get paranoid around guns and make even more false moves than police already do. You know what would happen if every black person who felt oppressed carried a gun? Cops would be even more worried and racially-profile more.

You're not even necessarily wrong that the answer isn't to take away guns, but that's never the discussion and very few liberals actually want guns to be taken away from law-abiding citizens. The problem is : PEOPLE ONLY DISCUSS GUNS. Kid accidently shoots himself with parents gun? Gun control or anti-Gun control. Act of Terrorism? Gun control or anti-Gun control. School shooting(possibly the only platform where guns might genuinely need to be talked about ... still overepresented)? Gun control or anti-Gun control. Police shooting? Gun control or anti-Gun control. 

Gun control talks aren't nuanced, they aren't the root issue, and they don't solve anything. Police are always going to have some sort of power or authority over your average day citizen, that's what makes them officers of the law. What we should be talking about isn't gun control, but how we can get to a point where in a discussion guns aren't even part of the equation.