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Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

So they winning 3 of 4 generations, not doing that bad and recovering on the gen they were they made mistakes, correcting those mistakes are less relevant information (and ignoring it have been 23 years of them in the market) than wishfull thinking that they will make alot of repeated mistakes because "reasons"?

Sony said they wouldn't charge for PSN multiplay on PS3, so far they haven't. Owww so entretain me on how many times a company confirmed any speculation of new HW before official reveal? The most I saw is Shu and Layden saying they don't see the end of generations so soon.

Yes sure the PS5 release will depend on devs needing the power and new HW, and that is basically why I said to you Sony isn't in any rush, PS5 will release when there is enough of a jump or PS4 isn't able to increase SW sales. So thanks for confirming my point. And people are predicting 400 and 500 based on a machine that haven't been announced yet? Sure, why not predict it'll be 1000.

http://twinfinite.net/2017/08/developers-will-be-able-to-bring-exclusive-content-to-xbox-one-x/

https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/17/microsoft-aaron-greenberg-qa-project-scorpio-vr/ (also have MS saying they will go generationless, something Sony never did but you want to push the narrative).

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/09/09/sony-ps4-pro-ps5-says-there-will-be-more-playstations/

Most of the talk is Sony not wanting to confirm there will be or there won't be a PS5.

I read the first link and the guy writting the article sure is taking liberity with exclusive content since the person he interviewed did not say anything of the sort.  The good thing about that link is that it does have the one where they say the VR devices will be exclusive to the X1X so as stated I conced that point.  Even with that, I will be surprise if MS even come out with VR for the X1X if their last E3 comments is to be believed.

I read a lot of articles but one thing for sure, the ones you listed tell you only that their will be a PS5, what the PS5 will be who the heck knows because Sony made no comment on their direction.  If you go by Yoshida comments you still get this vague answer that says maybe or maybe not.  Then next you just get yeah we are coming out with something but not soon.  You are still projecting what you believe they will do but Sony has not commited to anything.  The fact that Sony has not commited to any one direction is that they are still in wait and see mode.  

The big problem I see is that Sony probably never going back to a PS3 type of custom design.  So going with the latest AMD chip when they go into production how is this some next gen.  Do we today look at a current gen AMD card compared to the 3 year old one and think of it as next gen.  Unless Sony really plan on making their next CPU/GPU some custom job, not really seeing any next gen coming from them but instead just anothe iteration of a AMD GPU and CPU.  If Sony wants to make it so that only the PS5 or whatever they call it can only play their games on the new system that probably will be fine but 3rd party developers will probably just go the iteration approach and just port from the older systems.

You are really grasping at straws to try and put both message the same.

If devs want to port to older gen that is their choice, even today they can release games for PS2 or PS3 if they so want. Does that make PS3 forward compatible? No.



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