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Miyamotoo said:
Nautilus said:

For gods sake, did you not read what I just wrote?For your first two paragraphs, I just said that the base Switch could be the cheap model and could be in the same price range you just said, so it offers a cheaper option for people that doesnt want to pay that much, and the better Switch with better components would be the premium one, and yet you brush it off and repeats the same thing you said before as if I said anything?*facepalm*

And its not like Nintendo will make the Switch as cheap as they can.If something is selling, they will try to maximize profits.So even if this mini versions ends up releasing and costs 80 to manufacture, just for the sake of argument, Nintendo will charge it 180, 200 dollars for it.The New 3DS XL costs 200 dollars to buy, and that piece of tecnology is far cheaper than that to produce, Im pretty sure.And why Nintendo would do that?Because it would sell anyway.And if it is not selling, then Nintebndo has a bigger problem in their hands, because as we can see so far, its not the hardware fault for it not to sell.And I mean, do you REALLY believe that, assuming the base model is 200 dollars by 3 years from now, this mini edition would be sold for 100 dollars?Do you really think it would not only be that cheap to manufacture it, but also that Nintebndo would take in such a small margin of profit for each unit sold?Please.

And why do I think that Nintendo wouldnt do that?Other than the numerous reasons I already listed before, you are taking value out of the product, even if you try to compensate with a lower price point, and chances are, since you are trying to cut costs and make something like the Switch even smaller, is that you will end up with something more expensive(you would need to shrink the already small components inside it, and to make it so it takes better chips, or more expensive ones) and the battery life would suffer for it, since you want something smaller but with the same performance.See the problems?

2DS has only one screen?Oh please.And lets also not ignore the fact that one is touch and the other one is not.Surely Nintendo is a magician that can create such a device without making it expensive!*double facepalm*

Looking back at history and drawing conclusions based only on that is a doubled edged sword.On one side, its important to look back to know what happened to have a basis to make guesses for the future.On the other hand the things that happened in the past, the things that we base upon, was also a first for the industry.Until revisions were a common norm on it, someone had to do it first.Someone had to take a first step.And only then it became norm.Before Nintendo started making such revisions, nobody expected things as such.Only after that it became "obvious".The thing we are dealing with right now is not a handheld.Its a hybrid.Its a whole different concept.Its easy to say "that company always does this, so they will keep doing that forever!".But what you and everyone keeps forgetting that there will always be a moment when change is needed.Remember Splatoon?2 years ago it was a sure flop, because its not an estabilished Nintendo IP.Now?Its OBVIOUS for everyone that it will sell millions and millions.And the Switch is a different product.And I expect Nintendo to have a different treatment for it.

Am I right?Who knows.Nintendo might as well go your way and make a myriad of subproducts under the Switch umbrella.But given the radical shift in view that Nintendo had since last year, and that the company seems to being run mostly by new blood, and the old school taking more of a backseat approach to this, I choose to look at the possibilities that Nintendo might be doing something different again.We can have different views in this, but at least you should agree that my point might be more than possible.

I read, but it seems you didnt read what I wrote, again, regardless point that Switch could be cheaper $50-100 in around two years, Switch Mini/Pocket could be cheaper than that in any case for around $100. In other words, some people wouldn't want to pay even $250 for current Switch, but they would pay maybe $150 for Switch Mini/Pocket.

New 3DS XL cost $200 but 2DS costs $80, so they having lower price point, higher price point, and middle price point. In Switch case, Switch Mini/Pocket would be lower price point. I believe that around year and 1.5-2 years Nintendo will release Switch Mini/Pocket for price point of around $150-200, current Switch will not have lower price point than $250 (most likely that will be price of holiday 2018. for current Switch).

You are totally wrong, you dont take any value from product, you expand offer and price point of that product, its not like current Switch will stop selling. Why Nintendo relased 2DS, why Nintendo relaesed, New 3DS, why Nintendo relased New 3DS XL, why Nintendo relased New 2DS XL!? Nintendo will most likely use Tegra X2 for Switch versions in any case, so stronger battery life and less heat is given in any case, including small form factor. Switch Mini/Pocket doesnt need dock, doesnt need deatchible Yoy Cons, doent need to parts requred to work with dock, doesnt need HDMI cable, big package...you acting like Nintendo never done something similar, while you have 2DS that costs $80 while New 3DS XL is $200.

 

You are not very well informed, I guess Nintendo really is magician. :D

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/28/nintendo-2ds-has-one-big-screen-divided-by-plastic

 

Thats point, its not only point what Nintendo done with 3DS, but point that with Switch like hybrid device and like one unifeded platform, Switch will have plenty of different types of hardware revisions that will be part of same platform, and offcoures they will have lower price point Switch when 3DS dies.             I never thought that Splatoon will flop, from moment I played test demo I realised that game has huge potential.

We can only wait and see, but I am 90% sure we will have cheaper, smaller Switch just for handheld play in around 1.5-2 years (it will be ready for launch when 3DS dies).

Huh, didnt know about the screen.I admit I was wrong about that detail.But that doestn change the fact that just because the 2DS doesnt have a clamshell design it makes like a different form factor than the DS.Thats simply and factually wrong.Dont know why you are trying to win "points" trying to make every single argument you give as factually wrong.This is not a competition.

Look, even if you are being a blockhead and not even admitting that my arguments are sound and being quite honestly annoying saying nonsense like the 2DS stuff(Its like saying that the Wii mini is not a Wii because the design is different, or that the PS4 slim is not a PS4 because it is smaller), what we are arguing about are two likely scenarios that might happen.While I dont believe that what you are saying will come to pass, and vice versa, both sides have reasonable arguments behind them and at the end of the day, we cant actually get to a conclusion on what if scenarios.Lets just leave this one to time to decide who will be right or who will be wrong.Agreed?



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1