What games will MS market with XboneX now that Crackdown 3 is delayed?

[DonFerrari]

Machiavellian said:

DonFerrari said:

Yes Sony haven't made any statement on it being backward compatibility, and that is why there is even less reason to believe PS4Pro will play PS5 games as you implied moments before.

Who knows? Sony. Even for Pro that is just an upgrade special edition Sony didn't want to make it too expensive. So you wanting Sony to decide to repeat a mistake to end up over 400 is less probable than they keep it under 400.

Yes of course the price will be up to Sony. You are throwing everything to see if anything sticks just to defend that Sony and MS are sending the same message on PS4Pro and X1X. Considering we are 4 years into the gen and baseline PS4 is still 300 I have very little reason to believe their top model to be 200. PS4Pro won't be the baseline system when PS5 comes by. PS5 will play its own game (unless Sony without at any point so far decides to abandon gen, but then it would be pointless to call it PS5).

PS4Pro won't ever be the main Ps4 system, even today it sell 1/5 of total PS4 sales. So PS5 being 3x Pro will be about 7x PS4. But as I said, 3x would be like the minimum in 3 years span. But it could easily be 5 or 6x more in a similar point in time. There would be no point releasing PS5 if there isn't a big gain, even more when MS is playing it with X1X at this moment and shouldn't release a new console so soon. So Really Sony have no rush to put PS5 and make it a small gain, MS is giving away any chance of putting pressure on PS4. So expect PS5 either when the jump is significant or when SW sales start to drop (as have been the golden rule every single gen), and if SW is decreasing then PS4Pro as baseline would also be silly and useless since it would be on declining.

Not sure what make you think I want sony to charge more than 400 for their next console, instead I am saying there is nothing making Sony charge for their next console at 400 bones.  Sony could decided that the PSVR needs to be bundled with the PS5.  They may come out with another device and decide it should be included along with the base hardware.  Since we have no information on what the PS5 will be, to believe it will be 400 or less is you believing you already know their plans before they actually announce it.  Sony has made or indicated what their plays are for their next system so lets just say that its up in the air until either leaked or announced.

Also base PS4 with pack in game is 250.  You are getting confused with the 1tb model with pack in game going for 300. By this holiday season you will probably get the 500gb version for 200 with pack in game and the 1tb version will be 250.

If Sony has no Rush to put out the PS5 then when do you expect them to release it.  

Also why would the PS4 Pro not be the baseline in 3 to 4 years.  If the PS4 is the baseline now how would things change when the PS5 hit the market or are you saying the PS4 sline will remain the baseline.  

 

Yes we don't know if they will bundle or not. But they would need to be pretty stupid after seeing WiiU and X1 bundling expensive add-ons and forcing people to pay more on the HW for it made.

From what I have official price is still 300 USD unbundled, but sure it's common to find bundled PS4 at 250. But yes it's possible that the base model get to 200 on black friday. That still doesn't make it the official price, and it have been 4 years since release.

Nope I'm saying PS5 will be the baseline, PS4 at perhaps 100-150 and PS4Pro at 250 (could be 200 or 300 who knows) will be legacy system selling for another 2 or 3 years as have been the case. But considering PS5 launching at 400 and being much more powerfull I don't see anyone that wants power to choose PS4Pro, so they would choose price, and that would be PS4Slim.

I expect PS5 at 2020, but that is dependent on Sony being able to make a big enough jump or SW sales declining.