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Machiavellian said:

I bring up the WiiU and PS3 because corporations no matter how long being in the market can make mistakes.  They can guess or decide what the market wants or what the market will bare and fail.  The X1 was MS chance to solidify themselves in the market and they made the same mistake.  Next gen will be a chance for everyone to do it all over again.

The X1X is not the console you want it to be.  It's just a hardware refresh not a new system to the market.  It will not or was it ever thought to be the console to change MS position in the market at this time.   You can make these predictions when MS bring in their next gen system to market along with Sony.  The reason you cannot see things ending up well is because your expectations is off.  For some reason you believe MS has to sell the X1X like its a mainstream console buts its not.  Its not priced as a mainstream console and it comes to late in this gen to make that kind of impact.  Take the console for what it is, a high price Premium system for people who have money, enjoy MS ecosystem and want the system that will play 3rd party and MS games at their best.  Thats pretty much it.  It will not bring over any Sony fans unless they were already MS fans and was looking for a system to spend their holiday money on.

Except, you didn't! You brought up the PS3 and WiiU to supposedly shoot me down for saying that full fledged successor sell better than stop gap solutions.
You did this while wilfully ignoring that the PS3 actually beat the 360 in sales.
If you want to make a point, fine, but don't try and change what you said after the fact.

As per your second point: this isn't a discussion about whether or not either of us likes the concept of the xboxx; that is irrelevant.
I've been saying this since the beginning: MS aggressive marketing for the X lead to the sales for the S tanking, meaning they now need the X to pick up the pace. I find that unlikely, due to pricing, lack of titles and them appealing exclusively to their core audience while ignoring everyone else.
These are points you yourself make: it's not a mainstream console, but it needs to be since the S tanked.

My "predictions" they came in direct response to your ramblings about how the X might be in an advantageous position next-gen; a guess, since you provided no data or trends to support it.
The XBox brand is unbelievably unpopular in most countries, and it's laughable to think people would ever opt for it instead of anything from Sony or Nintendo. I don't see how a system that's "not for the mainstream" would ever change that.

What you're trying to do is to retroactively justify MS poor strategy because you happen to like the X.
I suggest you take your poor excuses and take it to a different topic.