What games will MS market with XboneX now that Crackdown 3 is delayed?

[Tulipanzo]

Machiavellian said:

Tulipanzo said:

Since you've been shown thath the marketing has been different, now you move on to saying that "actually, the message was the same".
However, you this "message" (again, what you showed was more akin to a feature list) still has to be marketed to people, that's how it works.

Assuming, that the messaging was identical, which is disputable, Microsoft still showcased the xboxx way more prominently at its biggests events than Sony ever did with the Pro.
If you have a better explanation as to why S sales have gone down, then please show it.
At this stage you've essentially argued that since both the Pro and the X have similar features, that it wouldn't be possible to market them differently, which is plain silly.

 

As for your second point, you are basing your argument on what the next gen might end up costing compared to this refresh, something neither you nor I could have any way to know.
I'd argue that since the PlayStation and Nintendo brand are more valuable worldwide, and since every mid-gen upgrade (the Pro, the New 3DS) has sold at a lower rate than the base hardware, that it would stand to reason than a PS5 or a Switch 2 would immediately be more successful than the X.

I also find it odd how you say that the X is not a next-gen console at one point, to then move on to say that it's going to be.
It seems to me that you expect Microsoft to launch an xboxxx which plays better version of xboxx games vs. a PS5 which plays PS5 games, not better versions of Pro games.
I really don't see it happening, for the reasons stated above, but I'll add: consumers like clarity.
If Sony and Nintendo come out with a next-gen people are going to buy it over another xbox upgrade. That could change, but they really don't seem in the position to push for it.

Still, this is all speculation. As things stand, Microsoft has to make a killing on the X, because the S isn't cutting it. 

MS isn't going to make a killing on the X1X because it's not priced to do so.  We can just throw that out the window.  Its not designed marketed or even implied that it will sell in that type of volumn.

As for what will sell and not sell as far as next gen, without knowning anything on games, hardware, features we can speculate all day long but if your prediction was true then the WiiU and PS3 would have been run away success if each company hand only to just make a console and people would buy it.

This is a discussion on what Microsoft can do to market the X now that CrackDown is a no show, and your solution is: nothing.
I think that's quite underwhelming, especially after tanking the S sales.
Your whole point seems to be making some pre-emptive damage control for low future sales.

It's interesting that you bring up the PS3 and WiiU, because those two consoles were also affected by a bungled value/price.
The PS3 price had to be lowered, but it ended up outselling the XBox 360. People wanted a new PlayStation, they just were willing to pay so much.
The WiiU never quite went down in price, but its release line-up remain sparce, something the Switch was eager to fix.

The X is launching with no game to call its own, at a higher price point than anyone else on the market, and with far less brand recognition than either Sony or Nintendo.
I can't see this ending up well.