Soundwave said:
Women can't handle stress huh? I'd like to see a man take four hours to push a baby out of his asshole and see how cool he is under pressure, lol. How many men can deal with a baby yelling in their face for 20+ hours a day? I'd say working in an office is child's play compared to that. To be honest too the math thing is not really my experience, in my experience the girls in my junior high and high school classes often scored higher in math. White males ironically were actually probably the lowest testing group. A lot of these studies are not conclusive. IMO most of this stuff is because of cultural issues, girls are pushed very hard to like certain types of things from a young age, as are boys, but if you reversed that I would say in many fields you would probably see a flip. |
I believe you already got your answer on stress so I won't go there.
You take your opinion and your personal experience as statistics so it's useless to point how wrong you are... unless I would decide to say women are dumb because I had better grades than any female in my high school IN EVERY SINGLE SUBJECT.
Stop pushing your opinion as fact. The very single fact point in the memo that on almost ALL countries the same phenomenon is observable through out history shows that it isn't simply a cultural thing. Each country is very different from one another, but most of them will have several similarities that comes from the real standard for people from biological level. Like murder not being condoned, about any place you go they only accept that or honor that in case of war or defense, but there isn't any significant culture that support killing of your own family.
Soundwave said:
The damage was done. Other female employees were already complaining that they didn't want to work with him and that's fair on their part IMO. If you're a white man, would you want to work alongside someone who believes you to be biologically inferior and easily rattled by stress? Probably not. Even if Google has to settle out of court it's easily worth it to prevent more spread of poor PR ... they are a company that makes products after all that are used by a lot of women (go figure) and that kind of toxic PR would've likely led to a boycott of their products/services if Google did not act. And that is the free market. People can vote with their wallets, and when over 50% of the marketplace is women, you better bet your ass that group carries a lot of sway. |
Yep the stress of a memo is so big you have to take the day off.
Well I'm sure there are a lot of women here in the company that think I'm inferior than then just by being a man and all that "potential hapist" as well. I still come to work and don't ask them to be fired.
That only shows people doesn't understand thing, aren't accepting freedom of speech and only reacts without any understanding in knee-jerk.
Soundwave said:
Pretty sure he citied things like women not being able to cope with stress and other factors. The bottom line is this ... this guy might be able to program but he's not socially the brightest bulb in the pack. Unless he wants to work at a gay club or plans to immigrate to Saudi Arabia, maybe it should have dawned on him that he probably would have to work alongside women, and such a memo likely wasn't going to be a big hit with the women he'd have to work with making him a corporate liability plain and simple. |
Nope he didn't said women can't cope. He said they are less willing to cope with stress just to get the status of the top positions, since you know, there are options to those carreers that may please them a lot more.
So should we fire all left-wing people on a company that think people on the right are facists, heartless, egotistics, money hungry people? Because that is on a much personal and direct form. Because you see, saying only left wing are good people and that EVERY right wing is bad is a lot more direct attack than saying women in general are less interested in that work which doesn't mean their females coworkers aren't, but that several women that aren't there just aren't because they don't really want it.
Soundwave said:
Those are pretty vague comments. I'd say the "stress" of working in a fucking office is pretty tame compared to the stress of pushing a baby out of your vagina, or having a screaming todler in your face for 18 hours a day, but that's just a wild guess. I think women can cope with stress just fine, probably moreso than men in many differing ways honestly. But lets base it all on a study on toddlers who stared about objects for a seconds? There is no definitive "study" that shows one way or the other, it's more likely in my opinion that a lot of our gender roles are simply culturally based. If you had an island where you raised 50 kids and you highly incentivized work with computers for women and hair styling for men, I think women would probably domiante the computer field in that scenario. It's not neccessarily anything to do with genetics. If testoreone is the key then why do the highest testoreone men tend to avoid "nerdy" jobs like computer programming like the plague. These are mostly cultural constructs and since the culture is changing (and it always is and always will continue to do so) so too can business culture. In any case, this dude basically killed his career since he likely can't be hired by any high profile company in his field now without controversey and no corporation needs that bullshit. |
You keep with you "my opinion contradicts studies".
Why don't you try the case of a boy that suffered mutilation on the penis when he was a toodler and the psycologist oriented the family to raise him as a girl and see how much the forcefull upbring was inneficient on changing the interest and biology of the boy.
And it's funny that we are so fast to accept that male are genetically stronger on phisicall level than women and that black are above white and asian on phisical also on genetic level... but it is totally unaceptable that there may be inteligence and capability differences between groups on genetical level as well.
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