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mrstickball said:
CrazzyMan said:
@mrstickball, Till x360 won`t have failure rate less then 3%, price won`t help MUCH.
The only problem in USA for ps3/x360 - weak $.

Also, MANY x360 games coming to PC, and by 2009, MOST average PCs will without problem run Crysis on High and maybe even Very High settings.
Those who wanted to get x360 games earlier, then they come on PC, already bought x360, that`s why x360 sales are now declining.
There are NOT much REAL exclusives, NOT timed, But REAL, like Forza 2, dead Rising, Crackdown and etc.

While MOST PS3 exclusives STAY exclusives.
How many PS3 games were ported to x360? =)

When PS3 will have games like KZ2, MGS4, LBP, R2, M:PR, FFXIII, GT5 it will be TOO LATE for x360 pricecut.

Of`course x360 won`t dissapear anywhere, it will be selling with around 100k maybe 150k, and at best case 200k per week. But That`s all.
Come on, look at NG2 sales.

Despite the 360 having below 5% now, it doesn't seem to of changed sales patterns.

Using fanboy "but the games are coming to PC" drivel is useless. Gamers aren't flocking to the PC en-masse that would cause any sort of shift to hurt the 360 when it has so many PC/X360 games. So I don't understand wha kind of stupid argument you are making here.

And you, as others, are using the same tired argument of "but this game is coming to the Playstation 3 and will boost it's sales to the heavens!" - Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a huge list of games that failed to move hardware (GT5p, DMC 4, GTAIV,  Gundam Mousou, HSG5, Dynasty Warriors 6). Why am I to randomly expect new games to succueede where othes have utterly failed. What about the 360's example? Halo 3 did move units, but failed to establish any sort of trend due to a restrictive price point. How is the Playstation 3 going to differ from this at all?

Saying that a half-dozen games on the Playstation 3 are going to "break" the 360, and the usefulness of a pricecut are entirely wishful thinking from a person that so desperately wishes the Playstation 3 wasn't so far behind in 3rd place.

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mrstickball said:


==> so low level ?
it is only a 100$ price drop  and the system entry price is still way beyond the average casual pocket ...
  • And the 360 could drop the price $100 before the PS3 could, and have the same desired effect, Lil. The 360 is still beyond the casual pocket too. So it's hard to understand how lowering the X360's price in it's

 


==> let's do this for the PS3 which has no special offer except the poor GTA4 bundle ...

last year : 25k
this year : 90k

no need to comment ... 

 

  • And this goes to show exactly how critical price drops are. The PS3 emerged very strong due to a price drop. Guess what? We can safely assume that when the PS3 drops price, it'll sell better. The same goes for the 360. Difference is, the 360 has had a much smaller price drop, thereforehas more to gain.



Do you see the difference in sales, or not? It's hard to say that a system has limited, failing potential when it's sales are roughly 200% higher year over year in a rather large region JUST AFTER AN IMPORTANT PRICE CUT. Because of this legitimate, hard data, I don't see how you can say the 360 is falling by the wayside, when it's obviously been a decent condender.

  • The pice cut happened what? 4 months ago? If it was going to be  random bump in sales, it would of stopped selling like it has months ago...But it's remained at the 70,000 level for nearly 4 months now. That's not a small difference, it's establishing a new sales trend. Exactly like what the PS3 has done.
 

==> no, because it beings to look "old" whatever it is truly old or not.
It is simply too late to drop the price, they had to be agreesive LAST year when they were on the rise ...
  • So your saying that price cuts are useless? Yeah....Great logic there!

How much MS is losing by giving the arcade+2paddle+GTA4+PGR4+Halo3 for 205 euros ??? 

  • Nothing. The X360 has been a profitable machine for quite some time, and it's very doubtful that selling at that price actually cost Microsoft money. MS has been making money on every machine sold....And despite the Euro price drop, H&E sales are still in the black.

 


 



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