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JWeinCom on 03 August 2017
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SuperNova said:

Reading that...makes me sick. What gets me are the casual endearments thrown in, like she's doing him a favor. They talk about his suicide like it's his collage application or a job opportunity, not the end of his existence. That...normalization is sick.

 

And the worst thing is, I can see how it happened. I have people really close to me that fit this sick mold of a relationship and it gives me anxiety. Yeah, she deserved every single minute of that sentence and still got off lightly.

She also dealt with depression and anxiety.  And one of those things that can come along with depression is thinking that suicide is a good idea.  Obviously, the girl's fucked in the head.  I'm not sure exactly how prison is going to help with that.  

Aeolus451 said:
JWeinCom said:
Roy: "i don't want anyone hurt in the process though"
Roy: "I meant when they open the door, all the carbon monoxide is gonna come out they can't see it or smell it. whoever opens the door"
Carter: "They will see the generator and know that you died of CO. . . ."
----
Roy: "hey can you do me a favor"
Carter: "Yes of course"
Roy: "just be there for my family :)"
Carter: "Conrad, of course I will be there for your family. I will help them as much as I can to get thru this, ill tell them about how amazing their son/brother truly was"
----
Roy: "Idk I'm freaking out again"
Roy: I'm overthinking"
Carter: "I thought you wanted to do this. The time is right and you're ready, you just need to do it! You can't keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did last time and not think about it and just do it babe. You can't keep doing this every day"
Roy: "I do want to. but like I'm freaking for my family. I guess"
Roy: "idkkk"
Carter: "Conrad. I told you I'll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won't be alone and people will help them get thru it. We talked about this, they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide don't think this much and they just do it"

July 12, 2014

In these exchanges on the day before his body was found, Roy expresses more hesitation about his plan.
Carter: "So I guess you aren't gonna do it then, all that for nothing"
Carter: "I'm just confused like you were so ready and determined"
Roy: "I am gonna eventually"
Roy: "I really don't know what I'm waiting for. . but I have everything lined up"
Carter: "No, you're not, Conrad. Last night was it. You keep pushing it off and you say you'll do it but u never do. Its always gonna be that way if u don't take action"
Carter: "You're just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off, you just have to do it"
Carter: "Do u wanna do it now?"
Roy: "Is it too late?"
Roy: "Idkk it's already light outside"
Roy: I'm gonna go back to sleep, love you I'll text you tomorrow"
Carter: "No? Its probably the best time now because everyone's sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck. And no one's really out right now because it's an awkward time"
Carter: "If u don't do it now you're never gonna do it"
Carter: "And u can say you'll do it tomorrow but you probably won't"
---
Carter: "You just need to do it Conrad or I'm gonna get you help"
Carter: "You can't keep doing this everyday"
Roy: "Okay I'm gonna do it today"
Carter: "Do you promise"
Roy: "I promise babe"
Roy: "I have to now"
Carter: "Like right now?"
Roy: "where do I go? :("
Carter: "And u can't break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something."
Nah, she was being pretty literal.

Any recording of them actually talking about this or records of them communicating before all that? The reason why I'm asking if just about anything is damning on text because emotions can't be conveyed through it easily or you can't read facial reactions/body language or the tone of their voice. 

I still think she shouldn't go to jail over it. There are couples out there pushing for legal suicide for one of them while the other is supporting their choice. 

There is no reasonable interpretation aside from her telling him to kill himself.  Especially considering that he killed himself in the manner they discussed.  She But yes, she was on the phone with him as he was doing it.  He left the car, and she told him to get back in.

I haven't heard of anyone arguing for legal suicide, except in the case of of those with terminal illnesses.  Even if they did, I don't see how that is at all relevant.  People arguing for something has nothing to do with whether or not it should be legal.  See: NAMBLA.