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fatslob-:O said:

JEMC said:
If we talk about GPUs, people choice a product over another by the current performance... but keeping an eye on the future.

If I had to decide between a GTX 1060 and a RX 480/580, I'd go with the AMD product despite being slightly slower in current games. And I'd do that because they have more VRAM, they're much better with DX12 games and for some unknown reason Nvidia can make better drivers out of the gate, meaning that their products improve less over time than their AMD counterparts, so that small difference between a 1060 and a 480/580 could turn around and make the AMD product faster in a year or less.

Sadly, that doesn't apply to the high end because, as we all know, AMD doesn't have a high end product. So choosing a 1080Ti over Vega doesn't have anything to do with focusing only on their current performance, because it doesn't matter how much AMD improves its drivers, a card destined to compete with the 1080 won't be able to compete with a product that's 30% faster than its smaller sibling.

1080Ti > 1080/Vega64 > 1070/Vega56 > 1060/580/480

You don't know that! (Neither do I for that matter.) 

There's far more to performance than just the drivers themselves. AMD could very well get into these so called 'dirty' gameworks tactics that the internet decries Nvidia for by paying game developers to accept their code contributions which has two paths (one that would have catastrophic performance for their competitor even on their own hardware too and the other code path containing the most optimized code with their driver extensions by detecting the vendor ID) 

Keep what eye on the future exactly ? (Tons of people bought GTX 680's over HD 7970's despite having a massive lead in current games.) 

I don't know, it's true, but we know that AMD has been using the 1080 in all its Vega demostrations, which gives us an idea of what segment of the market they're going after.

Also, do you really, really think that AMD has the power to get into a battle with Nvidia using propietary tech? C'mon, they're in a position where, if they do that, it could cause them more harm than good... while losing a lot of the goodwill they've gotten promoting the open formats over the years.

The 680/7970 case was an oddity. The 7xx0 cards were the first GCN cards and AMD had a lot of work to do with their drivers, and it also needed an extra bump in speed to 1,000 MHz to top the Nvidia card.