Pemalite said:
thismeintiel said:
Is there a reason you keep saying Navi is coming in 2018? It is being reported now that it is coming out in 2019, which is the year I expect the PS5, or at least its announcement. If somehow it does hit 2018, it'll be very late 2018 and in very limited quantities. 2018 is when they are going to be focusing on the Vega 20 (which is being made in 7nm 14nm+, so maybe that will be better for the PS5), or whatever that will be called, now, and the Vega 64 Pro Duo. And since Vega was delayed, what makes you think Navi won't be? I guess keep the hope alive.
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Because of AMD's roadmaps. There are some fake roadmaps floating around, so stick to legitimate sources if you can.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11404/amd-updates-gpu-architecture-roadmap-after-navi-comes-next-gen
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10145/amd-unveils-gpu-architecture-roadmap-after-polaris-comes-vega
And the reason why Navi won't be delayed is simple.
AMD has more than one team. One team was responsible for Vega, another for Navi. Just because one team might be slightly slower out of the gate doesn't mean the next is.
nVidia has done the same thing in the past where one team was slower with one GPU release, the next team was on time, so you had a less than 12 month~ release gap between an entire product launch.
thismeintiel said:
Manufacturing costs always lower over time, even if not greatly after the first year or two. Of course, at first, a lot of the cost is the manufacturer trying to make up for R&D costs. AMD is not going to ignore those costs for Sony or MS, either.
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Sure. They do. But there comes a point where you are better off overhauling your design.
You aren't going to get a Vega chip that is only going to cost $100 in 3 years time.
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Haven't seen any reports saying they are fake. Either way, one of your articles is from over a year ago and so it is outdated. The first is newer, so more accurate. Care to point out where it says 2018? It just says sometime before 2020. With Navi's successor coming out 2020, not 2019, like you stated earlier. And with Volta coming out, I would think AMD would want to correct all of the tech sites reporting that Navi isn't coming out until 2019.
And a $100 Vega for consumers? Nope. But a $100 Vega for a company wanting to buy millions of them? Most likely. At max, it'll be $150. Easily cheap enough to throw into a $399 box.
