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thismeintiel on 31 July 2017
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shikamaru317 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

That's true. Hmm, something smells fishy.

Alright, I found another benchmark which maybe makes Guru3d's benchmark seem more ??? with the FuryX but makes it a bit more in line with AMD's findings.

 

Still, the one that is the same on both of these benches is that the 1080 is hovering around 150fps at 1080p.

Here's another one just in case which is more closer to AMD's findings while keeping the 1080 the same:

 

Yea not sure why Guru3d's Fury X was like crazy high loll.

I wouldn't be surprised if Vega 64 is a pretty close match with 1080 at release in most games, might even beat it in some DX12 stuff, where AMD has consistently had an advantage this GPU gen. But the question remains, why would you want to buy a nearly 300 watt GPU when you can get approximately the same performance from the 180 watt 1080? Sure the HBM2 might be better for games where you want to mod in some higher res textures, but I'm still hard pressed to see why I would want to buy either of these instead of the 1070/1080, unless the performance in games is better than I'm expecting based on this early benchmark. AMD does a good job on the mid-range imo (I would gladly buy an RX 580 over a GTX 1060 if I could actually find one somewhere, damn Ethereum miners), but they've been failing on the high-end for several years now. 

And then there's Volta coming next year. All AMD seems to have done is play catch-up and match the 1+ year old 1080 instead of actually taking a significant step into the lead. Meanwhile Nvidia is working on Volta, the 1180 is most likely going to be at least 20% more powerful than Vega 64 when it releases next year. I hope for AMD's sake that 2018's Navi is a full GPU range instead of a half GPU range like Polaris was, but I doubt it will be. 

Navi hits 2019, not 2018.  Next year, AMD will have the Vega 64 Pro Duo (this may still release late this year) and Vega 20.  Not sure what the latter will be called.  Maybe Vega 64+.  But, that is supposed to be 20% more powerful than the normal Vega 64, so that is probably what is going to be competing with Volta until Navi is actually ready for the masses.  The Volta may still prove to be a little more powerful, but my guess is AMD is going to try to beat them on price next year.