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whatever on 29 July 2017
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andrewclear said:
Hiku said:

There's a big difference between a social democracy and communism. If you think that that Bernie is pushing for communism in USA and not the social democracy model in most other developed western nations, then I don't know what to say. Not that USA isn't already very socialistic with social security, public schooloing, the roads you drive on, etc. But lets pretend that one healthcare program would suddenly make all the difference and drive you to communism.
Bernie can make as much money as he wants, as long as he doesn't accepts corporate donations.

Yeah, books are made by corporations, like every other product. That's not really what "not taking coprporate money" is refering to.
When you make a book deal, the book company makes an investment, and not a donation, which they earn back from taking a part of the sales revenue.
When a pharma company donates a million to your political campaign, they expect your vote in return.

I don't know about his lake house, but I'm guessing it's about as mysterious as Barack Obama's birth cirtificate.
Why is it so hard to believe that a politician doesn't take corporate donations? That's common practice in many other countries, where corporate donations are illegal. I don't think Bernie is perfect btw as I don't agree with every decision he makes. But in this regard he seems a lot better than most politicians.

He took money from the corporation PACS.  He also took money from schools, etc.  Taking money from unions / activists groups / and government organizations is the same as taking money from corporations.  Here is a link to some PACS he took money from https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000528

Yes, he is advocating communism, and it is sad people are blind to it.  He is against private ownership of business, why else is he attacking corporations, banks, etc?  Without private ownership, you get public ownership, which is government ownership, which is basis of communism.  Some people are confused and believe communism is a political model for governance not an economic model, which is what it is.  

If the government controls the healthcare industry, that is one more industry taken away from the public and ran by the government.  And, y s, they would control it, make no mistake.  Look at the Charlie Gard situation.  They wouldn't even let the family take the kid overseas for experimental treatment.  Just ordered him to go to a hospice and die.  Welcome to government control.  No freedom.

 

For the record, I do not hatr corporations, a lot of them are good and treat their employees well,  it you don't hear about them all that much.  I do hate some of the CEOs and I hate how some companies care too much about their share price and will do evqery unethical thing to raise it.  But that is human nature, we are not altruistic, we are greedy, and we look out for our own interests first.  Quit drInking the blue koolaid (I tell conservatives to quit drinking the red koolaid as well).  If you really think these politicians care about you, then you are part of the problem that people in this country are actually being hurt by the government.  These people don't care.

Also, complaining about politicians taking money from corporations and doing favors from them, then supporting a party that literally buys votes from people with tax payer money, is pretty damn hypocritical.

It is sad that you are blind to what he is actually advocating.