potato_hamster said:
Turkish said:
Thats not a niche part at all, Sony can make a better upscaler than what the Framemeister costs for a fraction due to economies of scale. The company behind Framemeister is nothing compared to an industrial giant like Sony. Sony has the resources to sell something better for cheaper.
Something like this shouldn't realistically cost more than $99-129. The Nes/Snes classic probably costs Nintendo ~$20 to manufacture, they have crazy margins on it.
No one would want a PS1 with preloaded games, people will want their own PS1 libraries, both on disc and digitally. Sony's gotta be more original than doing the same thing as Ninty.
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lol. Okay man.
Let's break it down. I don't know what the framemeister does to do what it does, but they might utiliize some extremely specialized components to achieve what they're achieveing and it's not so simple for any company to make those components for fractions 1/10 or 1/30th of what it costs someone else just because they're ordering 2 million as opposed to 10,000. Even if they can, and can produce it cheaply, there could be IP that Sony needs to license that might not be cheap, which means Sony may need to pay a royalty more expensive than the components themselves in order to produce them. It is not that simple. You're grossly oversimpliying the concept of "economies of scale".
Why shouldn't something like this realistically cost more than $99-$129? Says who? Just because the sum of the components to make the device might be $50-60? What about the development costs? What about the Q+A costs? People are going to expect this thing to play every single PS1 game if it has the drive. That means ensuring they all work. And I assume they're going to want their memory cards to work as well. That's a whole other can of beans. Ohh and the digital copies of those games? You need to test those as well. Not exactly trivial.
No one would want a PS1 with preloaded games? I remember people saying the same thing about the NES classic.
Believe whatever you want to believe. At the end of the day, Sony isn't going to make your console, and you've been told why.
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Brah, Sony is famous for their TV and DVD upscaling technologies, these dudes can leverage the knowhow from their entire workforce, a small <200 employee company has to source expensive parts to manufacture them, not Sony.
The PS3 had already a PS1 upscaler built in since 2006, it just wasn't a priority to be the purest form back then, the upscaler is good but not the best according to My Life in Gaming but they can easily make it if they prioritize it for the retro market.
It shouldn't cost anymore than $129 because it's not expensive for Sony to make. It's basically a PS1 with a HDMI out, those things sold for $99 more than a decade ago. The PS1 Classic would easily sell even for $149. "And I assume they're going to want their memory cards to work as well" nah, they dont need to go that retro, if they would, whats the problem?
I want this system because I think about the yuuuuge Japanese only PS1 library, which alone rivals many consoles entire libraries. I want a modern, simple way to play them on my HD TV, no hassle with emulators or upscalers.
Lawlight said:
Turkish said:
"So you want Sony to cater to a very niche market"
LMAO niche market, go educate yourself how big the retro market is right now before giving your next 2 cents
"that will likely cost Sony more to develop than they would make off of it"
I says they will likely make money off of it than lose.
"To get the level of upscaling,PSN connectivity, disc drive support and storage, it would cost far more than anything like the NES classic"
Yeah it's gonna cost just as much as the PS4.
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So, how big is the retro market right now?
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Well u've seen how big the nes/snes classic are. I'd say it's a billion dorra market especially because of the inflated prices people pay for games. Earfbound, countless other rare games etc. But even million sellers from past gens rise in price despite being so numerous. Even games like Skate from last gen.
