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Cobretti2 on 25 July 2017
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Eagle367 said:
Cobretti2 said:
well a poor person who knew how to manage money would not be poor.


i can see where he going with this. hopefully it isn't someone born into a rich family but someone who has demonstrated a history that they know what to do with money.

That's an idiotic way of thinking. This system called capitalism was built for the rich. Most rich people are not rich because they made awesome life decisions but because they have dynasties that built their wealth for them. Everyone is not Bill Gates if they were we would have a much better world. I am saying the rich most of them are close to Drumpf then Gates. And on that subject the system is rigged against the poor. The poor get no defense whatsoever. They can't get banks to give them accounts they can't get insurance or cars because they have no bank account. Even if they work day and night they get beaten up by the system and small mistakes which rich idiots get away with by a slap on the wrist make them end up in jail. Even in jail when they get out they are charged for it which is silly I know but private prisons. Then when of course they can't pay for it they end up in jail because they couldn't pay for it. They can't get credit because of lack of money and they can't get jobs because of no credit and they can't get money because of no jobs. So its a vicious cycle

 On the other hand the stupid sons of rich men get richer by corruption and using the system that was built for them. Capitalism is proving to be quite a failure because it destroys any real middle class and people are either wya more rich then they deserve or need to be while most are way more poor then they deserve or need to be. Its not like a poor person is just sitting on his ass all the time. They work twice as hard twice as much just to survive. If you get stuck in that rabbit hole of actual poor people you will be stuck in a spiral very very very few can escape and that with luck skill has nothing to do with it most of the time

Yer but your assuming when I say Rich I am talking about only Billionares. Anyone who started with nothing and was able to move up to top 20% wealth bracket in a country can consider themself Rich in their own right. They demonstratwd the avbilty to get out of shit and make something of their life.

The stuff you describe sounds liek America is broken. here is Aus anyone who tries hard enough can become something. I started out with nothing as did my brother. We both went to the same school and yet I applied myself and managed the money I had and he did not. He wanted to be a floater in life. My networth is probably 20x his and yet we both had the same equal opportunities.  I have no sympathy for peopel who cry it is too hard. Offcourse it is hard, sacrifies have to be made, to jump up a class or two.