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vivster said:
sethnintendo said:

Obama still got elected again.  Remember the close Gitmo, repeal Patriot Act, etc.....?  Although I do have to say Trump is a more disliked person than Obama ever was.

The difference being that Obama didn't make a million unkeepable promises at once and then claimed everyone else is shit at their job but him.

Obama didn't achieve some of his goals but at least he didn't make impossible promises and then was an asshole about it. Has he blamed not being able to close Gitmo on McCain?

Heard on NPR radio today but it is a good point.  Guy was saying that Democrats laid down for Obama to pass something (the ACA) early even though it cost them their jobs in 2010 elections.  Right now Republicans aren't willing to lay down for Trump to pass anything besides maybe a tax cut for the rich.  Republicans are pretty much the worst people to talk about improving the overpriced for profit healthcare market in the USA.  They can't come up with shit because they are pretty much battling a flawed system.  So it comes down to there wont be shit done on healthcare for another 2 years now because they can't come up with the votes to even bring it up to debate.  Sorry not even sure why I'm talking about healthcare but I saw McCain and knew he was in surgery/recovery and waiting to come back to somehow move shit forward but 2 republicans just switched to no vote.