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thismeintiel said:
VGPolyglot said:

Is this a strawman? It sounds like it to me.

Doesn't to me. He actually just explained it quite well.  Legal justice is good. Social justice, especially when only one small group is determining what that actually entails, is not.

irstupid said:

While I'm not going to go so far as to belittle anything feminists or SJW's or whoever is doing. Many of their so called "victories" are nothing to do with them but purely capitalism.

Takes recent Star Wars movies. Like everyone is getting cast with many minorities and female leads. Are they doing this because SJW's won or to apeas them or whatever you want to say? Hell no. In an interview one of the people in charge said they have a female lead to bring in female audiences. They know that the star wars fans will go and see the movie no matter who is cast becuase they are die hards. They have no fear of loosing them. Heck, the prequal trilogy proved that. If star wars fans still get hyped to the extreme on anything star wars related after the prequals, you know they are hooked for life regardless. So they cast females and minorities not for story/equality reasons but to draw in new fans. Plain and simple. I mean how many star wars toy commercials do you see these days that have a little girl staring in them? Or look at other disney movies. Namely allt he animated ones. Who is the lead in them? Girls. It's girls saving the day in the movies, not the princes anymore.

They are doing this cause they see an untapped market, not because they care about equality. All it takes is a leaked emails or billing rights, ect ot show that any equality talk in Hollywood is just a public face.

Personally, I think the biggest reason people may accuse it of SJW influence is probably more down to very poor writing.  Rey is shown to just naturally come across her Jedi skills with absolutely no training.  After the training we see Luke go through over the years, and even the training Anakin must have gone through under Ben, it just seems like a slap in the face. Almost like she girl powered her way to matching, and beating, Kylo, who must have had at least a decades worth of training.  Under Luke, and then under Snoke.  Not even hints of her using the force without her knowing it when she was all alone.  

It would have been much more forgivable if we had a quick scene of her reaching for something, while her back was turned, but it is just out of reach.  But then, it slowly moves towards her, without her noticing.  Or when she was trading for food. The guy could have given her a crap deal, but without knowing it, she uses the mind trick to bring his offer of food up.  Instead, we get her going 0-Jedi in basically one scene near the end.  Again, poor writing.

No idea why SJW would need to get brought up though. Just people looking to blame shitty writing.

Force awakens was one big copy/paste of A New Hope yet with everything bigger and instead of building a character up like Luke they gave us a Mary Sue in Rae.

And just as they very obviously tried to fix the plot hole in the death star weakness in Rogue One, I can see them trying to fix the mary sue problem in later movies. You know like a flashback showing her having been trained when she was young and somehow forgot/mind wipped and thus how she could do all she did. Still BS as Ben has a ton of training and is also a direct skywalker descendent. Unless Rae is some child Vader had like a week before death or another midiclorian miracle baby, she shoudl not only be less trained but have lesss potential than Ben. To not solely single out Rae though, Anakin as a kid was also quite the Gary Stu. But we all know the only good thign about the prequals was Obi-Wan, so no need to bring them up.